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GHK-Cu Aggregation in Reconstituted Vials

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Summary

Why does GHK-Cu develop sediment at the bottom of the vial after 6-7 days?

The original poster reports 100mg GHK-Cu vials looking fine initially but forming aggregates around day six or seven across multiple sources. Adding extra bac water and refrigerating stopped any further changes. Others note they have never seen this when using more dilute mixing from the start, and point to concentration, pH, or bac water type as likely factors.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether the root cause is concentration, bac water quality, or pH drift

Still open

Exact mechanism behind the aggregation after several days

Nothing here is advice.

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AmberMeadow57archiveopening postOct 29

After six days my 100mg GHK-Cu started showing something at the bottom of the vial. I've noticed others reporting the same thing where it looks fine right after mixing but then clumps up around day six or seven. This happened across vials from various sources and batches. Adding extra bac water and putting it back in the fridge stopped any further changes. What could be causing this after about a week?

RustBeacon82archiveOct 29

Haven't noticed anything like that in my own vials. Been using GHK every day for five or six months. Which bac water are you using? I've tried a couple brands myself.

KeenSparrow66archiveOct 29

Which bac water brand did you go with? I think this might be related to pH. Since the vials came from different places but the bac water was the same, that could explain it.

BrightSparrow36archiveOct 29

Can you clarify what you meant about adding more bac water and nothing else happening? Did the stuff at the bottom dissolve after that, or did it stay clumped?

BlueAnchor59archiveOct 29

It calming down after extra bac water suggests it's about how concentrated it is, not the peptide spoiling. Putting 100mg GHK-Cu into a small amount of liquid is a lot, and these copper peptides can come out of solution if kept cold and strong, or if pH changes. Starting with more dilution avoids the problem. If something remains at the bottom even after warming the vial in your hand, better to discard it than risk using it.

LevelAlder29archiveOct 29

To help narrow this down, could you share more details like how much bac water you used for the 100mg GHK-Cu, which brand, and whether it was plain or saline version? Also, exactly what occurred when you added the extra bac water? Haven't come across this before, but thanks for mentioning it. I've been using GHK-Cu myself for several months with 50mg vials, usually mixing in about 6mL of bac water or saline bac water to lessen the sting, and haven't run into aggregation. I've tried a few different bac waters including saline versions.

SharpHarbour71archiveOct 29
↳ replying to @AmberMeadow57 (opening post)

Used 100mg GHK-Cu vials from multiple sources over the past eight months without ever seeing this happen. I always mix them with 10ml of bac water.

GreyLantern71archiveOct 29

Sorry to hear that. I've come across similar pictures elsewhere and they often trace back to the bac water used. Some bac waters seem more reliable than others. Because I was worried about stinging from GHK-Cu, I mixed my 50mg with 10ml of bac water.

IronLantern24archiveOct 30

I've mixed 100mg amounts using anywhere from 10 to 30 mL of bac water since April and never ran into that kind of problem. Both the liquid and vial were at room temperature during mixing, though I'm not sure if that matters. It's odd it only showed up nearly a week later.

BrightMeadow24archiveOct 30

I'm mixing 100mg amounts with 3ml of bac water and haven't seen any problems so far.

AmberMeadow57archiveOct 30

I only use pharmacy-grade bac water and this showed up for several others besides me. Most who ran into it were using the same common brand. The vial mixes fine at first, but after a week of use those clumps appear at the bottom. Adding extra bac water and turning the vial makes them go away. It looks like some kind of reaction, though I haven't found an explanation for why.

SlowSignal67archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @BrightMeadow24

Same here, no problems after four days.

AmberMeadow57archiveOct 30

These came from separate vials and different sources. Only one of the photos is mine, the rest from two other places that used different bac water. It's not limited to my case; others have seen the same thing.

AmberMeadow57archiveOct 30

From the affected vial that had 3ml bac water with 100mg, I pulled half out, filtered it into a fresh vial, then added another 0.4ml from the same bac bottle to the remaining solution that still held about 40mg. The clumps cleared once the extra liquid went in. I then stored that vial in the fridge for over three weeks without touching or shaking it and nothing formed.

BrightSparrow36archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @AmberMeadow57

So the issue comes down to how concentrated it is. You found a straightforward fix for it.

AmberMeadow57archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @BrightSparrow36

Concentration might be part of it, but it's strange that it waits until after about a week of use before showing up. I'm more interested in what is actually happening to the material, whether it changes or loses strength.

SteadySparrow75archiveOct 30

I quickly lost interest in the 100mg size. For most items larger amounts are convenient, but I dilute these enough to split the filtered mix across two 3ml sterile vials using 6ml total bac water. Never saw anything like what was shown. I'd suggest anyone considering these to pick the 50mg size instead. I still have a bunch of the 100s sitting because I switched to 50s for actual use.

BrightSparrow36archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @SteadySparrow75

I just ordered three of the 100s because they were inexpensive, but now I'm wondering if they might end up being more hassle than they're worth.

SteadySparrow75archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @BrightSparrow36

I would have sent you some of mine. I probably still have four or five kits left. I'll probably get around to using them eventually, but ordering more 50s instead feels easier.

PatientHarbour28archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @AmberMeadow57

The earlier comment seems like the clearest explanation. If the original vial sat in the fridge for a week before any bac water was added, and the bac water itself was also chilled, the same clumps would likely appear but much sooner. We're all just guessing at this point. The name for it came up in high school chemistry, though I had to look it up again.

PlainAlder11archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @IronLantern24

30ml? Where do you find vials that size? 10ml makes sense. I have some 10ml vials I put the last 100mg amount into with 7ml bac water. I also have two 50mg and two 100mg on the way. Clearly I won't finish a 100mg vial inside the normal window. What's the longest you keep one of these after mixing?

BrightSparrow36archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

I think the 100s will be fine inside a 30-day window. Some reports suggest they stay stable past that, but there's no need to push it. A 50mg vial lasts about 20 days at the usual 2.5 dose. I'm planning to run a 100mg vial over 30 days since I'm already using around 4.5mg daily split between morning and evening, and I want to try 4-5mg daily for a couple months to check for more benefits.

LevelAlder29archiveOct 30
↳ replying to @BrightSparrow36

This summer I was using 120mg a month. Too bad we can't go back and swap. Down to 2mg a day now, no big change but I might increase again if tests look good. It does look like the main factor is not enough dilution. Next time try at least 6ml, or if it were me I'd use 12ml and split into four 3ml cartridges.

CopperAlder30archiveOct 30

I ran into chunky material recently as well. In my case I was combining it with another peptide in the same cartridges. Adjusting the ratio fixed it for me, though I'm not sure if the root cause was pH, concentration, or something else. Since it happened with multiple brands of bac water, concentration seems the most likely.

WryLantern78archiveOct 30

Not happening in my vials. Everything stays fully mixed with no clumps at all.

SteadySparrow75archiveNov 2

Another method I tested was reconstituting both the KPV and the KLOW together using one 5ml syringe. Because I filter into 3ml sterile vials this took two of them. I do have 5ml sterile vials but they won't fit in my 20 slot case for ready vials. I pulled 5ml of BAC into the syringe and added roughly 3ml to the KLOW and the remaining 2ml to the KPV. After both had fully dissolved I drew the KLOW solution into the syringe first, then drew the KPV into the same syringe so the two could mix. The blue color makes it easy to watch them combine. Before I always pulled each into separate syringes and then had to guess the amounts going into each vial to keep them equal, which bothered me when I set them next to each other and saw small volume differences. Mixing everything in the one big syringe first meant the amounts going into the vials didn't matter for evenness.

IronLantern24archive6d

I prepared a batch of that KLOW mixture with GHK-B for my father by combining ten milligrams of the GHK-B into eighty milligrams of the KLOW. He mentioned it produced zero irritation at all.

How long have you been on the 3mg? I've been using the GHK-cu at 3mg for a couple of months now, and before that it was the usual 2mg with breaks in between. My main question is whether my skin will keep getting better or if it will just reach a point where it can't improve any more.

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