Semax, Selank, Epitalon VS NA Semax, NA Selank, NA Epitalon

It means the N-acetyl amidate forms. For the first two peptides the modified versions also go by other names and can be found listed on certain research sites.

I ordered a couple of the larger modified Selank kits after getting good results from smaller amounts of the basic version. Hoping for longer-lasting effects whether sprayed in the nose or injected under the skin. Once it arrives I'll share how it goes.

When did you place the order? Bought straight from a seller? Quite a few places stock the changed Selank and first peptide, but the third one is harder to locate in modified form. Do you inject the second peptide into a vein? Is that done in a clinic or on your own?

It'll take a couple of months if the group order stays on track.

The one I got was listed as the amidate version in a 30 mg size. Whatever the exact setup, the amount gave a solid deal compared with smaller basic Selank.

That should be fine. Just make sure they aren't claiming the adamantane version when it lacks that structure. Some sellers don't know the difference and others don't care.

It goes by Adalank.

Oops, I meant nasal spray earlier. Thanks for the correction. I'm still fairly new to this and the info helps. The adamantane versions sound like the top choice, while the amidate-only ones are weaker, right? Should I avoid the amidate forms for the first two peptides? Did that come from an AI or from a research site?

They both need the same addition to count as the full versions.

The third peptide comes as an amidate version in modified form, though some places sell it without that cap and it doesn't seem worth the extra cost. My most recent cycle used the amidate version. It also seems to work better when used nasally.

Thanks, that was a clear way to put it. Have you been using these for a long time?

That video was interesting. Sounds like you've tried both routes and prefer nasal. I didn't realize the rodent studies were all done that way. How would they even get rats to use a nasal sprayer? I've seen some peptides offered ready for nasal use, but could I take material from a vial and make my own nasal spray? Is that mainly for the strongest Semax version?

They probably used tiny spray bottles. I only use the strongest Semax version under the skin because nasal feels too strong for me. Even under the skin a small amount goes a long way. For the basic versions of the first two peptides and the third one, nasal works better in my experience. I also lean toward nasal for another related compound. I shared how I prepared the spray a few months back. The method is the same for all of them, only the concentration changes to adjust the dose. Which one gave you clear noticeable effects?

Good details on making the nasal spray. In general do you think most peptides that affect the nervous system work better nasally? I'm looking at another one called Dihexa.

Most of the time nasal gives higher absorption, though there are exceptions. One compound is always given by muscle or vein in a medical setting. I wouldn't try putting that one in my nose. Dihexa is usually in tablet form and hard to locate, with limited studies. I haven't tried it beyond reading.

I've seen it in 10 mg vials. The pill version patent isn't being challenged from what I hear, but nasal might still improve uptake based on what you said.

I don't know of any nasal protocol for it. You'd be trying something new. The under-the-skin amounts are already high, around 8-10 mg, so getting that much through the nose without it running down the throat would be difficult. I wouldn't go that route myself.

I'm interested in your actual results comparing nasal and under-the-skin doses for each of these peptides plus the related one. After several sinus operations I no longer have most of the tissue that would absorb a nasal dose, so that route doesn't work for me. Another compound is also being considered. Any thoughts on under-the-skin versus nasal for that one?

Sorry to hear about the sinus problems. For these short-chain peptides under 1000 Da, nasal is usually the strongest method because they absorb well and can travel along nerve pathways straight to the brain. It also avoids liver filtering. That doesn't make under-the-skin useless, just less efficient. I've tried both and still favor nasal, but the doses stay roughly the same either way. Research sites list protocols for both. You could add an extra injection to make up for lower efficiency. The first peptide typically lasts three to four hours either route.

Do you load it into nasal spray bottles? Which ones work well?

I use specific spray bottles that deliver about 0.10 mL per spray, which simplifies dosing. I shared the exact reconstitution amounts I use in another thread.