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End of the vial issue.

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Summary

How to get every last drop out of a nearly empty peptide vial

Forum users describe several techniques for recovering the final liquid from a vial, including inverting it and retracting the needle, adding extra bacteriostatic water, using longer needles, or prying off the cap. Some combine the remainder with a fresh vial while others accept small losses or discard the syringe. Opinions vary on whether the effort is worthwhile given measurement limits and typical overfill in vials.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether tiny leftover amounts justify extra steps or if it is better to simply draw a full dose from a new vial; also whether one syringe can safely be used across two vials

Still open

Which single method is most reliable for zero loss without added risk

Nothing here is advice.

32 replies · 16 people
ClearQuill84archiveopening postMay 25

Just finished a vial today that had exactly 0.1 ml left inside. The syringe only managed to pull 0.08 ml even after trying. I figured some had been lost on earlier draws but could still see a couple of drops sitting at the bottom that the needle could not reach. Anyone got a good trick for getting those final bits out of an almost empty vial?

NorthBramble10archiveMay 25

When I get down to the last pull I back the needle out almost to the stopper so it is barely inside the vial, then flip the vial upside down. That usually lets me get nearly everything, maybe leaving just a single drop at most.

ClearQuill84archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @NorthBramble10

I already tried exactly that, moving the plunger up and down a few times with the vial inverted, but still could not get the last drops. I thought about just popping the top off and drawing straight from the opening but ran out of time in the morning rush.

NorthBramble10archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @ClearQuill84

Thinking about it now, maybe that leftover is why most COAs I see show the vials slightly overfilled.

SlowBramble67archiveMay 25

First draw some air into the syringe equal to the amount of liquid you expect. Flip the vial upside down, push the needle in until it is just above the liquid, then push the air in. Keep the plunger pushed while you move the needle all the way to the bottom, then let go so the pressure forces the liquid up into the syringe.

ClearQuill84archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @NorthBramble10

Even so, missing those few drops means the final dose ends up smaller than all the earlier ones from the same vial.

WryHarbour70archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @ClearQuill84

If you really want to avoid taking a bit from the next vial, just add another 0.2 ml of BAC and you should be able to pull out about 95 percent of what is left.

PatientFenwick91archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @NorthBramble10

That method gets almost all of it. The actual active powder is such a tiny amount that the filler makes up most of the weight, so slight overfills are common when labs try to hit the target. It is easier to leave it a little over than to keep adjusting.

ClearQuill84archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @WryHarbour70

It is not about the cost, it is about getting the dose right. I already had another vial mixed the day before, so pulling from that would just leave me short again. If I had known I would lose some I would have added extra liquid like you said. Next time I might just open the vial if the same thing happens.

WarmMeadow92archiveMay 25

Same idea as what RicFlair mentioned. Pull the needle back so it is barely through the stopper with the vial upside down. You will probably pull some air too, but you can just push that out once everything is in the syringe.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @ClearQuill84

When I have only a partial dose left I just inject what I have and finish the rest from a fresh vial. I like being precise but I cannot control or measure the fill variation anyway, so a 0.02 ml difference does not bother me. If I only got 0.08 ml from the old vial I would toss it and pull the full amount from the new one. Some people remove the cap to get every drop but I have plenty on hand so it is not worth the trouble.

ClearQuill84archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @WarmMeadow92

I will try that next time. It makes sense because I use short needles and the opening might sit just above the last drops. It was early and I did not think to try every angle.

LevelTimber64archiveMay 25

What about using a longer needle? The 1.5 inch ones I use for mixing and filtering reach the bottom and get every drop. Like you said, it is not the money, it is having to mix at 5 am because you are always a bit short.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

You could just mix the next vial before you reach the final dose and skip the early morning hassle altogether.

LevelTimber64archiveMay 25

The devil is probably right.

ClearQuill84archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

Like I mentioned earlier, I already had a new vial mixed the day before because I only had 0.1 ml left and needed 0.2 ml total. I thought I was set, but something always comes up in the morning.

SharpAlder88archiveMay 25

I just pop the cap off and use a narrow syringe that fits through the opening with a needle long enough to reach the bottom.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Same here. I keep one mixed a few days ahead when I am getting close to the end so I know I will have enough.

IronLantern24archiveMay 25

I just pry the top off since the vial is finished anyway, though it can be annoying sometimes.

GreyAlder39archiveMay 25

The leftover depends on how much water you used to reconstitute and how well you can read the syringe. With 3 ml total for ten 0.3 ml doses, a 0.02 ml remainder is about a 6-7 percent loss. In your case it was closer to 20 percent. That is why some pens use 0.6 ml doses for better accuracy. Smaller reconstitution volumes and insulin syringes help when you only need a little liquid.

NorthMeadow96archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @ClearQuill84 (opening post)

A mixing syringe with a 1.5 inch needle will reach the bottom so you can pull everything out.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @GreyAlder39

Why change the original amount of BAC? Most people do not use 3 ml or 5 ml syringes for this. My 0.5 and 1 ml syringes hardly hold any extra liquid after I check. I purge with BAC after filtering.

GreyAlder39archiveMay 25

I generally use a 1 ml syringe for adding the water. The point is that 3 ml syringes are not precise enough if you want to add 1 ml or more. Comparing a 1 ml reconstitution for ten 10-unit doses versus a 3 ml reconstitution for ten 30-unit doses shows the lost volume stays the same but the actual amount lost is three times smaller in the more concentrated case.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 25

That is your choice. I use 3 and 5 ml syringes when reconstituting from R24 to R60, and 5 ml for R140. Even for R30 I add 3 ml and use the 5 ml syringe. What size vials are you mixing?

ClearLedger54archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @WryHarbour70

Would you use one syringe for both vials or do two separate injections?

GreyAlder39archiveMay 25
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

For R20 I now use 0.6 ml of BAC and transfer it to a pen so each dose is 0.3 ml. I prefer not to inject too much BA. It dissolves fine up to 80 mg per ml.

WryHarbour70archiveMay 26
↳ replying to @ClearLedger54

I would use one syringe and have done so, though some will probably call it sloppy.

ClearLedger54archiveMay 26
↳ replying to @WryHarbour70

Sanitation-wise it seems fine to do the new vial first then the old one, but getting the exact amount is tricky. Going from old to new feels off.

WryHarbour70archiveMay 26
↳ replying to @ClearLedger54

No measurement issue for me. It does dull the needle a little, though not much with an insulin needle. That is why I switch to a separate draw needle for thicker oil products.

SteadyQuill55archiveMay 26
↳ replying to @ClearLedger54

That is why two separate injections are better. Pull what you can from the old vial, note the units, inject, then use a fresh syringe for the rest from the new vial. I would never stick a needle that has been in one vial into a new one. Syringes are cheap and I already take enough risk with grey-market stuff, so I limit exposure wherever I can.

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