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After 2 years on Tirz where to go next? Elora or Maz?

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What next after stalling on tirzepatide following major weight loss: increase dose, add retatrutide, try eloralintide or cagrilintide, or focus on calories?

The original poster lost 120 lb on tirzepatide over two years but stalled at 15 mg with 48 % body fat remaining and strong evening cravings after adding retatrutide and lowering tirzepatide. Participants suggest titrating retatrutide higher before adding eloralintide or cagrilintide, keeping some tirzepatide for inflammation control, or shifting emphasis to a moderate calorie deficit with high-volume foods. Several note that retatrutide alone may not restore full appetite suppression and that very low calorie intake can itself drive rebound hunger.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether the stall is best addressed by adjusting medication combinations or by moving to a moderate calorie deficit and volume eating instead of continued reliance on appetite suppression.

Still open

Which specific stack or dose will reliably restart loss for this user, and whether eloralintide will outperform cagrilintide in practice.

Nothing here is advice.

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PlainBramble29archiveopening postJun 17

I began tirzepatide exactly two years ago today and dropped about 120 lb, which has been great. I spent a year at 15 mg of the original product and have been stalled since December 2025. I swim six days a week for two or three kilometers instead of lifting. I still need to lose another 60 lb to reach a normal range and currently sit at 48 % body fat. Eight weeks ago I started retatrutide while lowering tirzepatide; I am now at 7.5 mg tirzepatide and 4 mg retatrutide with no movement yet. Evening cravings are intense and I keep checking the fridge. On Saturday I added 0.25 mg cagrilintide for extra suppression but notice nothing, unlike the early days on tirzepatide. I am wondering whether eloralintide would be a better next step than mazdutide to get back on track.

LevelBramble14archiveJun 17

Did you ever consider moving tirzepatide up to 20 mg?

PatientFenwick91archiveJun 17

First, huge congrats on the weight loss. Dropping from 15 mg tirzepatide down to 7.5 mg plus 4 mg retatrutide is bound to leave you hungrier than before. Retatrutide does not seem to suppress appetite much for me either; I actually felt hungrier on it than on nothing. An option worth trying is raising tirzepatide again and adding only a small amount of retatrutide for the glucagon effect. With cagrilintide, give it the full week then consider 500 mcg. It took time to notice for me.

PlainBramble29archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @LevelBramble14

Nope, I wanted to switch to retatrutide because of the reported benefits for losing belly fat, which is exactly where mine sits.

PlainAnchor84archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @PlainBramble29

I switched from tirzepatide to retatrutide. The first month I pinned 7.5 mg tirzepatide and three days later 4 mg retatrutide; doing both the same day the first time was a big mistake. The second month I moved to 5 mg tirzepatide and 8 mg retatrutide and started getting dizzy spells at the gym, at work, or any time I changed elevation. Food aversion was also bad and I had to force myself to eat. I dropped the tirzepatide two weeks into that month and kept retatrutide at 8 mg for six weeks before going to 10 mg. I still get full quickly and sometimes have to push myself to eat in the morning, but lunch, dinner, and snacks are easier. Glad you are staying active and chasing your goals.

CopperSignal27archiveJun 17

Retatrutide still has a decent chance of helping once you reach 12 mg, though after your long stall on 15 mg tirzepatide and the amount already lost it probably will not produce dramatic extra loss. It should at least help prevent regain. Doses above 12 mg could be considered if sides allow. Either cagrilintide or eloralintide looks like the stronger add-on choice; eloralintide has less data so far but appears to give more weight loss and fewer sides than cagrilintide. Since you have already started low-dose cagrilintide, it may be worth titrating that slowly first and switching to eloralintide only if sides become an issue. The only human combo data we have is with cagrilintide and semaglutide, which helped but not as much as hoped and with fairly high side-effect rates. This exact situation has not been studied much yet.

CopperMeadow83archiveJun 17

I think you should try retatrutide plus eloralintide, or just retatrutide first to see how it goes and add eloralintide later if you plateau. That combination is supposed to be really effective.

GreenMeadow54archiveJun 17

I hit a long plateau myself and realized the real issue was my overall intake rather than needing extra medication. Once I started tracking every single thing I ate and chose bigger portions of lower-energy options instead, the scale finally moved again. Those drugs work better as a tool to shift habits than as the main driver for dropping pounds. Being consistently active helped a lot, yet the months without progress showed I was still taking in more than I burned. Using an app to log meals made the hidden extras obvious, since the built-in estimates often turned out inaccurate. I kept hoping the hunger control would return, but filling up on lean protein and high-volume meals gave me the same effect in the meantime.

LevelThistle44archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @GreenMeadow54

I agree with getting retatrutide higher and considering past 12 mg if sides allow. I moved from 5 mg tirzepatide to higher retatrutide fairly quickly with little trouble. There is not much research yet, but the talk around eloralintide matches what you are looking for. How have the sides been on tirzepatide and now on the retatrutide plus cagrilintide mix?

PlainBramble29archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Sides on tirzepatide were mild, mostly occasional nausea and diarrhea once a week or so. All of that disappeared completely in December when the medication stopped working. Now I feel nothing at all, stay hungry all the time, and have stronger cravings than before I ever started tirzepatide.

PlainBramble29archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @GreenMeadow54

I tracked the whole time and had no trouble staying at 1300 calories a day while hitting protein goals. Now the hunger and chocolate or snack cravings are intense in a way they never were before. I do not understand why it was easy to stay on track for 18 months and suddenly is not.

GreenMeadow54archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @PlainBramble29

That partly explains it. Holding calories that low for a long time, especially with your activity level, is going to trigger a response. Your body thinks it is starving, so hunger ramps up. The survival drive can override the medication eventually. Moving to a healthier deficit of 500 to 700 calories below maintenance should let you see progress again. A stall since December shows you have not been in a deficit lately, so there is room to correct course. You can still adjust medications for hunger control, but pairing that with appropriate calories, higher protein, and lower-density foods should help.

SlowSparrow81archiveJun 17

You have been in a very large calorie deficit, so your body is working hard to get food back in. Have you considered cagrilintide with semaglutide? It should give strong appetite suppression. Another option is returning to 15 mg tirzepatide and adding retatrutide slowly.

AmberCompass48archiveJun 17

For people who started quite heavy, these drugs losing effectiveness before goal is a real problem. If it were me I would split doses every 3.5 days for both tirzepatide and retatrutide and raise the dose. Hopefully compounds like eloralintide will keep moving forward and give new options for those who have built tolerance.

SharpLantern71archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @PlainBramble29 (opening post)

I am also approaching the two-year mark. I stacked retatrutide for weight loss and tirzepatide for appetite suppression. Weight has stayed stable in maintenance, but the suppression has weakened and that concerns me. I plan to switch from tirzepatide to eloralintide while keeping retatrutide. On a side note, I wondered why the company released the rodent studies while human trials combining tirzepatide and eloralintide are still running. It may be because early human results look good but are not ready for release yet, so the rodent data served as a signal that the combination works. Eloralintide alone matches tirzepatide for effect with lower sides, and adding it to tirzepatide after a plateau appears to restart loss. I am in maintenance, which is outside the studies, but I am willing to try. I am still worried about regaining the 112 lb I lost.

CopperSignal27archiveJun 18
↳ replying to @GreenMeadow54

I would argue that focusing only on conscious calorie control long term is not the right approach here, especially for someone with long-standing severe obesity who has already stalled two-thirds of the way to goal on maximum-dose tirzepatide. It is possible the 1300-calorie count is off, since most people are not accurate at tracking, but relying on willpower alone tends to produce only short-term results. Changing food types toward lower-calorie-density, higher-protein choices is reasonable because it lets you eat more volume without as many calories. So far the only nonsurgical treatments that have made a real difference in severe obesity are the GLP-1 drugs. Research on what to do after stalling at maximum doses is still limited, but many on the forum have seen better outcomes with combinations.

PlainBramble29archiveJun 18

Thanks, that helps a lot. I get bloodwork every three months because of rheumatoid arthritis, and the values have improved a lot since starting tirzepatide two years ago. I am now inflammation- and pain-free for the first time in twelve years, and my doctor is pleased. I also have Hashimoto’s, which made weight loss difficult before, so tirzepatide was the first thing that worked in forty years of obesity. I will titrate retatrutide up slowly and keep tirzepatide at 5 mg for inflammation control. I probably just need to be patient with retatrutide; 4 mg may still be too low to restart loss. I will also try splitting doses to see if that helps control hunger.

PlainBramble29archiveJun 18

No, I stayed on the original product the whole time and never switched sources for tirzepatide. The retatrutide and cagrilintide are from research sources. The pens I have now expire in early 2027, so I wondered if that could be a factor. I have thought about reconstituting some tirzepatide from a research source just to test whether it feels different or stronger.

CopperLedger37archiveJun 30
↳ replying to @PlainBramble29 (opening post)

I would not have lowered the tirzepatide yet. Why not keep it the same and slowly increase retatrutide?

PlainBramble29archiveJun 30
↳ replying to @CopperLedger37

Afraid of pancreatitis from too much GLP activity at once.

NorthWillow72archiveJun 30
↳ replying to @PlainBramble29

Not everyone experiences the same thing, yet during moments of intense appetite I would choose big servings of warm dishes packed with bulk yet low in energy. Options I returned to often were soup bases mixed with poultry and grated cheese, or a spicy tangy broth containing meat along with sliced shoots and scallions. A full quart might add up to roughly three or four hundred calories, with most coming from lean poultry protein. The whole thing delivered a genuinely satisfying taste.

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