You feel safe injecting random Chinese substances into your body?

That is an old reference but I love it.

I once shared a used syringe two or three times with a friend. The needle was bent like a corkscrew and I tried to hit a vein for heroin and meth after filtering water through a Q-tip head and cooking it with a lighter. Missed the vein and dug around for five minutes. Now I am healthier than ever. SubQ shots do not bring that back. They are far safer. The second Pfizer shot gave me a pulmonary embolism two days later. I spent five days in the hospital, nearly died, and lost permanent lung capacity. They still bill me and the balance is around nineteen thousand. When I tried to get blood thinners at a follow-up and mentioned I thought the vaccine caused it, the doctor refused and demanded proof of the embolism.

I would rather burn out than fade away. That is my usual line.

Screw all of them and their vaccines. I skip flu shots, shingles, everything.

My sister-in-law had a full pulmonary embolism eight hours after her shot and did not survive. A thirty-eight-year-old coworker in great shape was found dead in bed on vacation right after his second dose with an inflamed heart and fluid around it. The gaslighting of injured people is ridiculous. Glad you made it through to share your story.

I am right there with you. I worked in a 911 center during the pandemic and when the shots started rolling out it was chaos.

That is awful. It could have been me if I had not reached the hospital in time or if the doctors had delayed another three hours. Because of the pain I could not lie flat for the MRI. They gave me an antipsychotic, then a benzodiazepine, then fentanyl, then ketamine before I could get in the machine. The morphine afterward was intense. I have a pre-existing heart condition that thankfully did not worsen. I credit the nattokinase and other things I took afterward.

No, give me every vaccine available.

My oldest is a paramedic and has stories too. He and his wife both said no to the shots.

Who exactly are you trying to get rid of?

My my, hey hey.

Same here. I was not completely against vaccines but the new technology made me cautious. On rollout day we had more ambulance calls than ever. Then my sister-in-law and the coworker incidents happened. Hard pass.

I live in the Bay Area where skipping the vaccine was rare. My kids were not getting it. At school the teacher asked who had the shot and my oldest was the only one who did not raise a hand. When I asked how that felt he said it made him glad he skipped it and refused to be pressured. I told him the apple does not fall far from the tree.

Smart choice with the nattokinase. Glad you survived to tell it.

I would be dead without the covid vaccines. Immunocompromised, overweight, Black, older. Our group was hit first. So yes, I took every vaccine offered.

Or at least staying the same.

Again? When was trust ever there? Singling out one person would just cause everyone to tune out.

IQ is a real measure for certain things. Tests can be culturally biased, especially older ones given to non-English speakers. Raven's matrices are supposed to be more neutral. I tested myself and others with a communitypsychometrics version accurate to about ten points. My score was above average but two friends scored higher, one who used to huff gasoline and another who falls for political misinformation and MLMs.

You nailed it. If you think through the risks the worst outcome is probably a hospital visit for antibiotics or antihistamines, maybe some reversible damage. That is still milder than rush-hour driving or untreated obesity. It is a bold thing to say on a weight-loss forum though. We are lucky to even have this conversation.