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Summary

How to lose a stubborn round belly and reveal abs at 50 while on tirzepatide, lifting heavy, and using peptides

A 50-year-old man at 5'10" 175 lbs has lost over 30 lbs on tirz but still carries a round stomach despite a calorie deficit, heavy lifting, and high protein. Participants agree visible abs require low body fat overall rather than BMI, and many recommend HGH or tesamorelin over CJC/Ipa for targeting midsection fat. Several stress getting bloodwork for testosterone and IGF-1 before adding hormones or peptides. Debate centers on whether visceral or subcutaneous fat is harder to lose and how interchangeable different GHRH analogs really are.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether tesamorelin and CJC/Ipa are interchangeable for reducing abdominal fat, and whether visceral fat or subcutaneous belly fat is truly the more stubborn type

Still open

Whether the original poster will obtain bloodwork, switch compounds, or drop further weight before seeing abs

Nothing here is advice.

25 replies · 10 people
IronLantern52archiveopening postJul 17

I've been taking this medication for roughly half a year now and have shed more than thirty pounds. At fifty, standing five foot ten and weighing one hundred seventy five pounds, I want to regain the muscle I shed during this period and reveal my abdominal muscles. Yet my midsection remains rounded and it frustrates me. Some other compounds are arriving soon. Maintaining a solid energy restriction, I train with heavy weights five times each week, something I've done steadily for more than three decades, and consume protein equal to my body weight every day. Despite all that, my stomach stays protruding and it bothers me.

PlainAnchor67archiveJul 17

Hope it works out. At five foot ten I dropped all the way to one sixty three without ever seeing abs.

PatientFenwick91archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52 (opening post)

With more than three decades spent training intensely with weights, any lost muscle tends to return rapidly for me. At this point in life, those particular peptides didn't offer significant advantages beyond improving rest quality. One of them increased my appetite dramatically though, and nothing else changed. I've maintained an active routine from my days as a competitor through teaching fitness classes right up to daily sessions in the weight room throughout adulthood. Even with solid nutrition habits, regular workouts, and staying at a normal body mass index, a protruding stomach appeared during my forties anyway, shifting my shape to resemble a pear. None of the other medications for weight loss made a difference in trimming my midsection. Switching over to growth hormone at a low daily amount finally started reducing the measurement around my waist, and that dose level suits my needs.

GreyAlder39archiveJul 17

My body mass index remains over 25. Visible abdominal muscles won't appear before dropping under 22. There's still roughly 20 pounds left to shed. I base my protein needs on the goal weight to avoid excess calories that could stall progress. For me that means 80 to 85 grams daily across four separate meals with enough time between them for digestion, including at least one without fat to counter the slowed process from the medication. This amount exceeds by 60 percent the minimum required to avoid muscle loss and safeguard cardiac health. After three decades without any trainer covering these basics, the facility must be unsuitable. The medications helped me drop the equivalent of a 40 kilogram pack carried since age 40. Ladies around my age now grin at me while walking outside. I'll keep lowering until running stops bothering my lower back nerves. A nearby parachuting class caught my eye so next year I intend to resume jumping. The scenery and sense of liberty are what I long for. That serves as stronger inspiration. Occasionally people take on targets from others and it fails to suit them.

WarmCompass44archiveJul 17

Once I hit fifty I figured it made more sense to bypass those secretagogues and head right for HGH if I wanted visible abdominal definition.

BrightCompass57archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @GreyAlder39

I know from experience that visible abs can appear even when body mass index hits 32. Overall I question whether bmi has any real purpose at all. My own fat percentage measured 9 percent at that same reading. Adding muscle mass means the standard bmi categories no longer apply. I wonder whether the original poster ever checked their hormone levels.

GreyAlder39archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @BrightCompass57

I agree with that point, since it applies to top level competitors in sports. There are cases of gold medal winners competing at a body mass index around 35. From the details shared by the original poster, this individual doesn't appear to be at that level and instead began with fat reduction, or perhaps the account is missing some parts. Tell me about your beginning point. Did you start thin and then add mass, or move directly from a body mass index above 40 while carrying excess fat to a 35 reading with developed muscle, never going under 25?

ClearQuill84archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @BrightCompass57

Yeah, that makes sense. The body mass index has no real importance here. Otherwise all those dedicated lifters and plenty of sports participants would register as extremely overweight or maybe just heavy. What truly matters is how much fat the body carries. Dropping below twelve percent usually means the stomach muscles become noticeable.

GreyAlder39archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @ClearQuill84

Yeah my calculation was pretty approximate from the figures shown earlier. Focusing on fat content gives a clearer picture overall.

IronLantern52archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @PatientFenwick91

Everyone seems to discuss HGH quite often, yet I prefer testing out CJC+I initially prior to thinking about HGH more seriously. My worry is that HGH might not be obtainable. Based on discussions I've seen, those who manage to locate some mention poor quality from testing.

IronLantern52archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @BrightCompass57

Tests on my blood levels aren't something I've done so far. Discussions about TRT show up frequently in these threads. I'm just not at the point where I'm willing to start that process though.

BrightCompass57archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52

I know what that sensation is like. My spouse gives me the shots which turns the process into something really straightforward. My daily existence has gotten so much better because of it. Low levels can destroy your whole existence. I had myself examined regardless of whether I planned to start replacement. Alternatives do exist.

SlowSparrow49archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52

I prefer getting a full set of blood tests done upfront, including counts for blood cells, metabolic panel, testosterone levels both free and total, sensitive estrogen, growth factor one with its score, and prostate antigen. With those results in hand, choices become clearer. Numbers around six hundred for testosterone suggest skipping replacement therapy. Dropping to three hundred could change that view. A negative one on the growth score might point toward using growth hormone. A positive one point five probably won't yield much gain. Establishing that initial reference point just makes sense to understand the situation. While these compounds offer benefits, focusing on nutrition, training routines, and balancing hormones first sets a solid foundation, with the compounds serving only as a final touch for things like achieving a lean midsection.

PatientFenwick91archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52

I went with those releasing compounds at the start, yet when focusing on my stomach area I switched to the tesa ipa pair instead. Sourcing decent growth hormone proved straightforward once I knew the right spots.

IronLantern52archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @PatientFenwick91

After doing my homework on the topic I picked this one since it comes across as comparable to the other choice and also less expensive though it misses out on having that FDA examination.

PatientFenwick91archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52

These two resemble each other since each copies the action of growth hormone releasing factors, although they do not function as replacements when focusing on trimming the waist. One has evidence it boosts growth hormone plus related growth factor levels, which aligns with aiming only to raise that hormone. The second one however comes with studies involving people that show it lessens internal stomach fat, explaining why I mentioned it for the waist area in particular.

QuietSignal61archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @PatientFenwick91

CJC and tesa function the same way in practice, except tesa produces fewer side effects than CJC usually does. Raising growth hormone and IGF-1 levels drives the drop in visceral fat. The human studies on tesa and visceral fat exist only because the compound was promoted for that use. Plenty of folks here wrongly assume tesa alone hits visceral fat because those studies happened to focus on it. If two different stimulants had never been tested on people, the one with published results on metabolic rate and hunger would not magically outperform the other through identical pathways. Visible abs depend entirely on reaching a low enough body fat level. I kept lifting regularly, stayed in a deficit, used the CJC and ipamorelin blend for over half a year when it agreed with me, continued the GLP compounds, and kept dropping fat. Plenty of people chasing the last traces of abdominal fat end up eating very little at night. Ignore anyone who labels the effort as disordered eating or calls the look skinny fat. Visceral fat also gets confused with belly fat in many online discussions, yet it represents just one type of fat and tends to disappear first during weight loss. Growth hormone and its releasing agents shrink abdominal and visceral stores through greater fat breakdown, so the effect occurs either way.

RustBramble70archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61

It seems I've been told the reverse all this time, with that internal body fat being the toughest kind to shed and the one that vanishes only after everything else. My own attempts have matched that pattern unfortunately.

RustBramble70archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern52 (opening post)

Initially it seemed like your heading posed some kind of query, which made me guess that pictures of abs served as this site's counterpart to those explicit male shots.

QuietSignal61archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @RustBramble70

Fat around the middle isn't the same as the deep stuff packed around organs. That outer layer of padding right under the skin below the navel tends to disappear last of all. You can't really gauge how much of the internal kind is present except through a scan, and even those results can be off. Scales that claim to read body makeup just spit out unreliable figures. The internal fat vanishes first once you begin dropping weight overall. It shrinks when you consume less energy than you use up each day. Those GLP1 meds cut it far more than HGH or tesa ever do.

SlowSparrow49archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @RustBramble70

Just don't mix up the internal kind with the layer right under the skin. The internal kind sits deep where nothing shows on the outside. The under-skin kind, like around the middle, holds on tight and usually disappears after everything else.

QuietSignal61archiveJul 17

Those are the times.

RustBramble70archiveJul 18
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61

I figured the other person had it wrong, yet the chatbot backed them up completely. Deep internal fat around the organs turns out to respond quicker to deficits than the layer right under the skin on the midsection. My own results don't line up with that, though, because the outer stomach area has tightened up and the side bulges disappeared, yet a firm central pad remains that I can't grab. The connected scale claims three-quarters of the drop came from the outer layer and just one-quarter from the deeper stuff across those months, but I wonder how accurate those readings really are. The chatbot laid it out this way: the internal type moves more readily because it gets more circulation, reacts sooner to lower calories, and reacts strongly to signals from certain hormones, so waist size and lab numbers often improve before looks change much. The outer type stays put longer since it reacts less to those signals and genetics play a bigger role, which explains why it tends to be the final area to go.

RustBramble70archiveJul 18

My bad, sharing that was my way of proving I had totally owned up to being wrong.

QuietSignal61archiveJul 18
↳ replying to @RustBramble70

Sorry about that sweetheart ❤️ I deal with AI the same way folks handle any private habit. Everyone participates quietly and finds it intriguing yet feels awkward admitting it openly. My way is hearing the output, separating the useful bits from the nonsense, absorbing the solid details, and claiming I already knew them that way all along.

RustBramble70archiveJul 18
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61

Had to chime in on this. It looks like you're spotting how often folks turn to these tools without saying a word about it. They keep the habit quiet and hardly ever own up to leaning on them so much. An odd blend of interest, ease, and slight shame shows up in the mix. In public we act like it's nothing special, even as the habit spreads everywhere. That observation lines up.

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