Tirz/Cagri vs Tirz/Reta--

You mentioned last Friday that tirzepatide alone wasn't cutting it. You could run all three together but would likely need to drop the tirzepatide dose. Something new is expected eventually so I wouldn't buy a full kit of cagrilintide. A single vial can last more than two months at a starting dose.

The appetite suppression I used to get from tirzepatide feels weaker now. Adding retatrutide was meant to help without raising the tirzepatide dose I had already lowered. Reports from others who combined them showed better fat loss and body recomposition than either alone. A very small dose of cagrilintide on top was considered to push suppression further. The goal is to test combinations for the right balance of silence, fat loss, and appetite control.

I don't plan to run all three or any combination long term. I just need to create a caloric deficit again after not training normally following shoulder surgery.

Here are some AI projections for running all three at current doses plus a starting cagrilintide amount. The output suggests a simpler tirzepatide plus cagrilintide stack may be preferable. For dosing frequency, splitting the full stack in half and taking it twice a week is one option, though I haven't tried that with stacks yet. That's the direction I'm considering for a clean two-compound approach.

I ran all three together for several months. Adding cagrilintide didn't produce any change I could notice even after raising the dose. Removing it also made no difference.

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