I tried it with tirz to drop some visceral fat since reta by itself didn't curb inflammation the way tirz does. It seemed to help but felt more like sema on the stomach side, and I don't enjoy combining things so I went back to tirz alone. There used to be a subculture around making your own version that might still exist in certain forums if you search around.
Not interested in promoters at all. I want actual user stories instead of pricing talk.