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Another reason not to trust the FDA

27 replies14 peopleJul 12, 2026☆ Follow
Summary

Why do people distrust the FDA on food safety and chemical regulations?

Participants share examples of the FDA rejecting limits on PFAS in food and allowing certain ingredients, viewing this as evidence of corporate influence over public health priorities. Some contrast this with personal health improvements after avoiding seed oils and discuss risks from rubber stoppers in peptide vials leaching chemicals. Others defend the agency's overall role while acknowledging occasional errors and underfunding.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether seed oils are harmful or harmless, and whether broad distrust of FDA approvals is justified versus overreaction to specific flaws.

Still open

Practical ways to fully avoid rubber stopper contamination when using multi-dose vials daily.

Nothing here is advice.

27 replies · 14 people
SharpWillow20archiveopening postJul 12

This link makes it obvious that big business really runs the regulatory agency.

RustBeacon82archiveJul 12
↳ replying to @SharpWillow20 (opening post)

The agency acts like it prioritizes citizen welfare but that claim falls flat. Profit drives the whole operation rather than actual safety for people. This pattern never shifts.

LevelTimber64archiveJul 12

Was there really a requirement for further justification? But okay.

IronLantern24archiveJul 12

This example makes it clear official clearances hold no more credibility than the lab paperwork supplied directly by producers.

KeenKettle50archiveJul 12
↳ replying to @SharpWillow20 (opening post)

Folks here gripe that officials must stay out of business affairs entirely. Then the same crowd turns around asking why those same officials won't step in to handle shady firms. No pleasing anyone either way.

CopperPebble16archiveJul 12

Labs cranking out peptides in secret often rely on bargain basement closures sourced abroad that fall short of medical standards. Those can shed a blend of cancer linked substances and metals, dumping more contaminants via one dose than the persistent pollutants most people take in from domestic meals and beverages across a full year. If you push the needle right through the seal, fragments could hitch a ride into the bloodstream and linger while they degrade, gradually feeding industrial compounds back into the system. A journal article looked at how much organic material escapes from these seals in sealed liquid or freeze dried medicines, pointing out that the issue is better mapped for fluids than for other storage types.

NorthWillow72archiveJul 12
↳ replying to @CopperPebble16

This looks rather over the top as well. I've heard claims that using just a tiny volume carries almost no risk from contaminants in metals and amounts to little more than alarmism in general. I run my vial caps through a fine filter with a slim needle and have never introduced anything into my joints via an oversized thick one. Typical needles for joint procedures fall between certain gauges and lengths based on the target area plus whether fluid gets drawn out beforehand.

SlowLedger21archiveJul 12

Honestly, does anybody have faith in that agency? It permits vegetable fats along with harmful additives inside edibles and beauty items while refusing to greenlight vitamins. 😂😂😂 Total nonsense! Anything marked with their stamp makes me question it even more.

ClearLantern70archiveJul 13

Screw that health oversight group completely. From now on I'm going against every single one of their orders.

BrightMeadow71archiveJul 13

People seem way over the top when slamming the FDA, especially those who inject stuff from shady origins into their own bodies. Sure every health agency runs into flawed studies, odd drug behavior in the body, shaky moral calls or botched data reviews at some point. That still doesn't justify ditching the whole setup. I make an effort to hear out my relatives over the holidays even when a few of them spout nonsense, instead of writing off the entire group. It's not a flawless comparison yet it feels about right to me.

KeenKettle50archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @BrightMeadow71

Yeah, I work in the food business myself. Everyone seems to assume they can shop for products from nearly any location without fear of toxins, broken pieces, or substitute substances. However, they tend to highlight only the problems that match their own priorities, criticize the oversight agency, and block its efforts. That agency has long dealt with insufficient funding and staff, yet it manages to operate quite effectively despite being stretched so thin.

LevelTimber64archiveJul 14
↳ replying to @CopperPebble16

Still dealing with the same problem here. How can this issue be prevented from occurring again? Even after dividing portions and straining, there's daily insertion into the cap. Does switching to a piercing tool cut down on the fragments? It seems like that tool might leave obvious pieces behind in the mixed solution.

LevelTimber64archiveJul 14

The word ought to be written as haphazardly instead of half hazardly.

KeenKettle50archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @SlowLedger21

Seed oils aren't harmful at all, and anyone falling ill from them must have weak genes from birth. Tons of folks consume them daily without any problems or endless health issues cropping up. Quit checking out posts by unemployed parenting influencers.

LevelTimber64archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @SlowLedger21

I find it surprising. Those oils derived from seeds don't seem problematic at all. I believe products like vitamins require proof before they can be cleared for sale. Oversight of how edibles reach consumers and how medicines are controlled serves a genuine purpose. That oversight body does make mistakes at times, no doubt. Medicine prices that exceed what makers need to recover costs and earn returns do cause harm to those who rely on them. I lack sufficient insight into how that oversight group operates internally to identify deeper causes, other than standard economic principles. Still, declaring zero in anything it clears comes across as quite a strong position.

SlowLedger21archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

I agree it's overstated yet my background reveals several reasons behind that view. Those oils harmed my well-being badly from early on, prompting my family to invest heavily in seeking relief for intense skin flare-ups that began at seven. We consulted distant experts across fields. Various skin specialists, allergy pros, hormone doctors, outbreak researchers and even a tumor expert all attempted to identify the cause and issued antifungals, antibacterials, suppressants plus topical steroids that triggered nasty reactions in places. Nothing resolved until a natural practitioner traced it to liver trouble and corrected that via eating shifts and additions, mainly by dropping those oils. My skin cleared, eyesight quit declining each year despite steep lens needs and astigmatism that kept worsening, plus other complaints eased. I recognize oversight bodies serve a purpose, of course. Still my history leaves me reluctant to accept every approval or prescription at face value. As an adult the setup has also let me down, such as mistaking my recent iron shortage for unrelated conditions or simply aging. Handling it myself yielded clearer gains than the specialists I consulted lately. Being uncommon this stays personal, though passing details to a couple others facing comparable troubles who felt stuck produced similar relief for them. I avoid urging anyone to follow my path or distrust their own sources, yet here is my take. Quite a few share this outlook.

SlowLedger21archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @KeenKettle50

Seems like I'm feeble or something because those oils from seeds mess with my body. And I never check out posts from mothers without jobs who write blogs, so there's no reason to be anxious regarding it. 🙂

BlueTimber78archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

I came across some research on the topic through an online search. From what it indicated, there was no problem with the needle size I happen to use.

LevelTimber64archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @SlowLedger21

It must have been tough dealing with all that. I'm happy you've discovered ways to address your health problems. Exploring various approaches to healing has real benefits. Food's role in treatment is incredibly important. Knowing more about your situation lets me view your first message differently. Appreciate you sharing that insight.

SlowLedger21archiveJul 16
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

I didn't mean for my earlier words to sound aggressive or narrow in outlook. Still, the whole setup with medical oversight and regulatory bodies has left me feeling let down, and I miss the full trust I used to have. I keep seeing physicians and trying recommendations that check out logically, yet that approach falls short more often than not. Checking ingredient lists and noticing how items clear here while getting blocked abroad just adds to the doubt. This remains my own story, so some readers might find the tone a bit much. Plenty of us turn to other options when standard treatments and eating plans fail to ease the physical and appearance changes that come with time. I'm glad the shared experiences and details in this space let me review things on my own, look further, and address the ongoing complaints that physicians often brush off as normal aging.

WryCinder14archiveJul 16

These chemicals end up contaminating meals since they're often added to bug sprays, wrappers around edibles, and treated waste spread over fields as plant food. 🤢🤮

LevelTimber64archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @SlowLedger21

After hearing about what you've been through, that earlier message of yours now clicks a lot better. It's common for details to vanish or get overlooked in digital chats like this, and it's not really anyone's doing, just how these platforms work. My relatives all worked in healthcare, so I saw it firsthand. I don't put up with that superior attitude they often have. Yet after my own surgery, I waited too much time before looking elsewhere for help from the doctor and nearby providers. The field gets intricate, leaving folks like us more and more out of the picture, which isn't right at all. Wishing you keep discovering ways to feel better. xo

SlowLedger21archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @LevelTimber64

Yeah that idea of allowing too much slack really connects with me but relieved you got out and push for your own needs now. Hoping you locate answers about your health too 🙂❤️

IronLantern24archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @SlowLedger21

Yeah, I notice it clearly whenever consuming food prepared with vegetable oil.

SlowLedger21archiveJul 17
↳ replying to @IronLantern24

I've gone over plenty of sources showing these break down differently inside the body from all the intense refinement plus the compounds added while preparing them.

KeenSignal28archiveJul 19
↳ replying to @CopperPebble16

This issue shows up with my testosterone shots too, even though they come from an actual American drugstore instead of some neighborhood fitness center contact. It shows up only once in a while, yet now and then I spot little rubber bits drifting around inside the liquid.

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