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3ml Pen Injector Pre-Purged Vial: Thoughts?

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Summary

Are pre-purged 3ml pen cartridges worth using for reconstituted peptides or do they introduce contamination risks compared to standard transfer methods?

Users describe moving from insulin syringes to pen cartridges for dosing precision and comfort, noting that transfers require multiple needles and some waste. Pre-purged options reduce venting steps but raise concerns about air exposure in the cartridge before filling. Most prefer venting and filling freshly wiped cartridges themselves while filtering, and reuse needles only within the same peptide session. Needle gauge advice centers on avoiding coring of stoppers.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether the sterilization of pre-purged cartridges offsets the risk of filling into an air-exposed space versus briefly exposed transfer needles

Still open

Actual contamination rates or sterility data for pre-purged versus freshly vented cartridges

Nothing here is advice.

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NorthLantern91archiveopening postMar 7

At the start of using peptides I relied on standard insulin syringes. After losing any fear of self-injection I moved to pens because they gave more accurate dosing and no pain, so I now move all reconstituted peptides into 3ml pen cartridges. The transfer needs several needles and wastes some product when done safely. I found these steam-sterilized pre-purged vials and wonder whether the long open space inside could allow contamination.

SteadyQuill55archiveMar 7

I tried filling after pre-purging and it saved the venting step, but I stopped and went back to venting the cartridge myself. Since I already filter and work hard to stay sterile it feels risky to fill into a cartridge that has sat open to air, so I avoid that approach now.

KeenFenwick81archiveMar 7

I just ordered some v4 pens and was thinking through the steps. It does use up a lot of supplies: one luer lock for reconstitution, a filter, another luer lock and syringe for venting and transfer, plus a pen needle to purge air. When loading two new cartridges can any of those items be reused safely?

NorthLantern91archiveMar 7
↳ replying to @SteadyQuill55

I share the same view. I always filter after reconstituting and stay very strict on cleanliness. My only question about skipping the pre-purged cartridges is whether the sterilization makes them any riskier than using several needles that have each been exposed to air briefly during venting and transfer with regular vials.

SteadyQuill55archiveMar 8
↳ replying to @KeenFenwick81

I reuse the same vent needle when doing multiple cartridges of the same peptide in one session. Everything stays within sterile cartridges that were wiped with alcohol. For a 12 ml batch that needs four cartridges I use one vent needle across all of them and a single 13mm filter for the whole volume.

PatientSignal60archiveMar 8

I'm about to order needles and syringes for making up cartridges. Which sizes do you use?

NorthLantern91archiveMar 8
↳ replying to @PatientSignal60

For regular insulin needles I use 1 ml 31 gauge 5/16 inch. For the 3 ml cartridges any size works for venting; I have used 20 gauge for that. To pull the solution and move it I use 18 gauge. Remember the 13 mm filters as well.

BlueSignal49archiveMar 8
↳ replying to @PatientSignal60

I started with a kit and was satisfied, so now I just purchase the items in larger quantities from a general retailer since I know what is required. It also includes some bacteriostatic water.

ClearWillow59archiveApr 7
↳ replying to @NorthLantern91

A study found that gauges below 22 can cause coring, pulling a piece of the rubber stopper into the solution. I stay at 25 gauge or higher and insert at an angle to reduce the chance.

BlueTimber78archiveApr 7
↳ replying to @ClearWillow59

I read about vials breaking into fragments with core issues turning up as a risk we can steer clear of.

WryTimber73archive4d

Appreciate the details, that's precisely what I needed. Filling the pen cartridges has been tricky lately, and I'm wondering if it's because the vent needle is too small to release air properly or if the 13mm PES .22 filter might be getting blocked somehow. Planning to switch to bigger needles for venting but unsure of the right size. Any ideas would be great.

ClearWillow59archive4d
↳ replying to @WryTimber73

Which size needle are you using for the vents? One of my small pen needles didn't work well at all. I just use the 28g ones I get specifically for venting. Never seen a 13mm filter clog except when I remove the syringe and reattach it, and sometimes an air pocket between the liquids creates an issue.

WryTimber73archive4d
↳ replying to @ClearWillow59

I believe it was 32g but I went ahead and ordered some 25g ones to try for venting. Thanks for the tips!

RustTimber85archive4d

That sort of cart doesn't appeal to me personally at all.

AmberCinder18archive4d

Back a few weeks ago I saw this recording of a guy filling one of those ready-to-go cartridges but now when I want to see it again it's gone. He inserted the needle directly into the packaging that protected it during shipping without removing the wrapper first, added the contents, and stripped it off only after it was full so he could load it into the device. The reason seemed to be minimizing contact while the internal plug descended.

BlueSignal97archive4d

Not really sure either way. Went ahead and placed an order for a few anyway. The air inside my place probably isn’t full of germs or anything, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. Still, I’m pretty comfortable taking chances like that.

ClearKettle65archive4d

I learned that with the compact three milliliter cartridges the narrow inner space forces you to pick needles with extra care. Sizes around twenty three or twenty five work best. The thicker option handles pressure changes right away when you move liquid in or out fast. The thinner one protects the small seal the most by limiting how much it shifts so it stays sealed tight later in the device. For length either half an inch or a full inch can fit. The shorter one tends to suit better since the barrel stays tight and brief so it passes the stopper without dipping into the fluid. The longer version works if you watch how far it goes stopping once the opening just gets past the inner side of the stopper by only a couple millimeters. Keep the tip up in the empty space above the liquid or else fluid pushes out instead of air. Hit the middle of the rubber disc to slide through cleanly without hitting the metal edge. Steer clear of anything twenty gauge or bigger because those tear or widen the little seal too much and then leaks start once pressure builds inside the unit.

ClearWillow59archive4d
↳ replying to @AmberCinder18

Why would they stick a sheet of paper inside the box too? None of it makes any logical sense.

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