4mm vs 6mm pen needles

That's a shame. I already bought a whole box of the shorter ones. I'll still try them since they will probably work okay anyway. Live and learn.

The regular version of those tips can be used, just not the plus version. I learned that the hard way. I would have chosen the longer size too. If the short ones end up being too shallow you can still use them for purging cartridges after filling, or try them without the cap.

Same here. I received samples in several lengths with a new pen kit and the shortest ones felt really comfortable, especially on the arm. I ordered a large box of them. No site reactions when using them with another compound. I kept the longest ones for rear injections.

You may already know this, but some pens from one major maker come with the shortest needles. They must have a reason. Still, my feeling is that anything from 4 to 8 mm works fine. The shorter ones also don't need you to pinch the skin.

I didn't realize that. Useful information.

I'd like the shortest 33-gauge ones but they all seem to be the plus version. What exactly prevents them from working with the pen?

This matches what I do and I've stayed with the shortest size for a long time. I'm really happy with a European brand of 4 mm 32-gauge needles; I barely notice them going in.

Thanks. Six bevel and silicone coated sounds worth trying even if it costs more than the usual ones.

The regular version has a smaller base. The plus version is too wide to fit through the hole in the cap. You could still use it without the cap, but not with it.

Which pen model do you use?

Why do you choose the longest size for anything containing that copper peptide?

Injecting deeper reduces the stinging from that compound. That's why I use the longest size. Diluting it a lot also helps. I don't like one particular brand because I've bent quite a few of their longer 32-gauge tips. I prefer another brand's 31-gauge longer ones but will probably move to the middle length for most things except that copper peptide when I reorder.

Which pen model do you use?

I'm not sure which company ran it, but one maker tested longer versus shorter needles in people with more body fat and found no difference in how fast the GLP compounds were absorbed. Most participants didn't feel the shortest ones at all, which is probably why they supply them.

Thanks! I'll remember that.

Try areas with fewer nerve endings such as the sides of the waist or the upper part of the buttocks. If your skin has loosened after weight loss, use the folds that form. Otherwise pinch a fold before inserting. You can also test whether breathing in or out changes how it feels.

I read somewhere that coughing at the moment of injection helps block the sensation. It works for some people.

I don't want to shift position and make it worse by accident!

Exactly!

It will get easier with time. It sounds like you really want to keep going, so stick with it.

I've been doing the twice-weekly shots since early May and it still hasn't become any easier. If anything my anxiety has increased, but I'm at a point where I really need to continue. A fear of blood and needles seems to run in my dad's family, though it shows up differently in each of us. Exposure is supposed to help but I'm still waiting for results.

Have you tried icing the area first? I still do it months later because I'm sensitive too. I also wear headphones with calm music, close my eyes, and try to relax.

It really comes down to the person you're speaking with at the moment.

Do you clean the skin before or after icing? I tried icing once but by the time the alcohol dried the numbing effect seemed to be gone.

I ice for fifteen to twenty minutes with a reusable pack. I take it off right before the shot, then wipe with alcohol so the skin is clean at the last moment. The cold lingers for a while afterward.

I have a collection of different pens, including one brand from Europe and a modified version of another model. As someone outside the US I ordered them from overseas.