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Short 30-31g 8mm Luer Lock or Luer Slip Needles Only

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Summary

Where can someone find short 30-31 gauge luer lock or slip needles suitable for injections instead of insulin syringes?

The discussion centers on locating short, fine-gauge luer-compatible needles for subcutaneous use while keeping separate needles for drawing and filtering. Participants note that luer-lock setups allow swapping to a fresh sharp tip after drawing through stoppers, though they introduce extra dead space. Several people report success with 29-31g options around 4-8mm for both peptides and oils after warming vials, and one describes a skin-testing method to avoid painful spots. The thread ends with users sticking to familiar insulin syringes or confirming specific short luer options exist online.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether luer-lock needles are appropriate or practical for direct injections versus always using one-piece insulin syringes

Still open

How much brand quality varies for short luer needles and whether they stay sharp after stopper punctures

Nothing here is advice.

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PlainAlder11archiveopening postApr 13

Just the needles themselves. Has anyone come across these? Spent roughly an hour searching earlier without success. Amazon carries some but reviews suggest they feel like kitchen tools. Prefer certain common medical brands over that. Nearest match found so far is 30 gauge half-inch.

NorthCinder83archiveApr 13

What is the plan for a luer-lock needle? Hopefully not for actual shots. For insulin-style or glp-1 shots people stick with fixed one-piece syringes that are short and thin. Luer-lock versions usually appear for moving larger volumes into vials or with filters, paired with matching syringes. Those tips tend to be longer to reach vial bottoms and wider for quicker flow.

PlainAlder11archiveApr 13
↳ replying to @NorthCinder83

Understood. Already have the 31 gauge 8 mm versions from two common brands for shots. Also keep 27 gauge inch-and-a-half tips on 3 ml luer-lock syringes for mixing, filtering and similar tasks.

LevelTimber64archiveApr 13
↳ replying to @NorthCinder83

Not every luer-lock needle is automatically too long or wrong for shots. The point is having the option to use a longer lower-gauge tip for mixing and filtering while still having an insulin-style syringe available as well.

PlainAlder11archiveApr 15

Those have come up. Multiple reviews mention they lack sharpness.

PlainAlder11archiveApr 18

Checked there already. Not confident about the quality of some of the brands listed. Also decided against the approach mentioned earlier. Thanks anyway.

CopperBramble58archiveApr 18
↳ replying to @NorthCinder83

Luer-lock or slip versions exist in every gauge and wall thickness. Used nothing else for years. Prefer lock style because the drawing needle never gets reused for the actual shot. Costs only a little more to have a fresh sharp tip that never touched a stopper. Hospitals do the same thing.

PlainAlder11archiveApr 18

Dropped the whole idea. The 31 gauge versions work fine for both drawing and injecting. Neither of us even noticed the needle. Already have four hundred of the one-ml and half-ml syringes in 31 gauge 8 mm.

BlueKettle89archiveApr 19
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

Picked up two hundred one-ml luer-slip syringes that came with 27 gauge half-inch needles. Drawing goes quicker that way. For the actual shot I switch to a 30 gauge half-inch tip from another brand because it stays sharp and only touches skin. Extra dead space and the extra step are the downsides. Ended up going back to the 31 gauge fixed insulin syringes. Found a trick to make those painless: press lightly first and if it might sting, shift two or three millimeters sideways until it feels fine.

PlainAlder11archiveApr 19
↳ replying to @BlueKettle89

Will remember that. Last injection started with a quick pinch but then went smoothly.

SlowThistle36archiveMay 6

Tried those? Not sure how much the brand matters for needles, but the page does not list one clearly. Only a name appears in the pictures that shows up often on big retail sites. If they hold up it would be handy for trt since plenty of larger drawing needles are already on hand to swap out for a fresh 30 gauge subq tip.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @SlowThistle36

Have hundreds of barrels and drawing needles. The 29-30 gauge versions from one popular brand run about eight or nine dollars. Not an accident that none of those sizes are stocked, though swapping each time is no big deal if wanted. Rely on half-inch 29 gauge half-ml insulin syringes instead, also in large quantities. Chose 29 gauge because draw time improves noticeably over 30 gauge. Warm the vial in a small container of warm water while handling other tasks.

SlowThistle36archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Would not have expected the jump from 30 to 29 to change draw speed much. Good to know. Already have a couple hundred 30 gauge five-sixteenth insulin syringes bought for another purpose. The clinic supplied barrels plus 21 and 25 gauge inch needles. Planned to draw with those then swap to a 29-30 gauge for the shot so the supplied items would not go to waste.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @SlowThistle36

Use them to reconstitute peptides, though also bought separate three and five ml syringes and needles. The clinic ones arrived individually wrapped.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @SlowThistle36

A 29 gauge opening gives roughly twenty to thirty-five percent more area for flow than 30 gauge. The small increase in radius squares in effect.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @SlowThistle36

Gave up on that route. Plenty of 23-25 gauge tips already for mixing. Will stay with the 31 gauge versions from the two usual brands now that they feel familiar. Do you warm anything to make drawing easier?

LevelThistle44archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

Warm what? Oil vials, yes. Peptide vials, no.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 6
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

Handle peptides with five-sixteenth to half-inch 30 gauge needles most of the time.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 7
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Same approach but with five-sixteenth 31 gauge. Those feel reliable now. Just aim for the center of the vial and draw slowly.

LevelThistle44archiveMay 7

Yes, 31 gauge felt too slow for water-based mixes so switched to 30 gauge for peptides and 29 gauge for oils.

PatientFenwick39archiveMay 7

Some stoppers seem hard enough that anything finer than 30 gauge dulls quickly. Did not believe it at first but tested before and after and the difference is clear. Now use these instead, and they are even dishwasher safe as a bonus. Just kidding, actually switched to another common 29 gauge brand.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 7
↳ replying to @PatientFenwick39

Have a couple of those that arrived with poultry injection supplies.

PlainAlder11archiveMay 8

Works great for a turkey breast before it goes on the pellet grill.

SlowThistle36archiveMay 11
↳ replying to @BlueKettle89

Replying mainly to agree again after missing it earlier. Dead space with luer-lock setups measures around 0.05 ml, which adds up and must be planned for when drawing before any swap. Reclaiming the leftover after injection is not realistic due to contamination risk. Unless the process is different than described, luer-lock adds unavoidable waste. Will keep back-filling the 30 gauge insulin syringes instead.

RustLantern55archiveJul 25

Did you ever locate a decent option? Still running into the same problem of only finding dull luer-slip tips. Want something for the end of a vial so a long dull drawing needle can be swapped for a better injection tip without back-filling an entire insulin syringe. Ideally looking for 29-31 gauge four-millimeter tips. Good ones might also replace a dull tip after drawing several peptides into one syringe for a single nightly injection. Half the time the usual brand feels dull after four stoppers before even reaching skin. High pain tolerance but not interested in extra discomfort.

SlowBramble47archiveJul 25

Medical supply outlets carry four-millimeter versions, obtained some for skin treatments. The same place also stocks six-millimeter and 32 gauge eight-millimeter insulin syringes from a well-known brand.

PlainAlder11archiveJul 25
↳ replying to @RustLantern55

A link appeared earlier in the thread for short luer-lock needles from one common brand, including some 31 gauge options possibly four millimeters. It is still in the discussion. Dropped the plan myself because four boxes of the usual 31 gauge eight-millimeter syringes are already on hand. Reconstitute two vials roughly a week ahead of injections so no need to change.

RustLantern55archiveJul 25
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

Great, thanks for the reminder. It was a screenshot that got overlooked at first. Located them.

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