The thread shifts entirely from practical labeling and freezer concerns into light banter about partners throwing out worn clothing and underwear. Participants share anecdotes on wives enforcing neatness, quirks from large families, and mutual interest in murder mysteries and true crime media, often with humorous domestic jokes. No return occurs to the starting topic of condensation, thaw cycles, or labeling techniques.
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Still openoriginal questions on vial labeling, condensation, and thaw cycles
Nothing here is advice.
I've got a huge collection stored deep in a big chest freezer. Items I'll reach for in the next year sit near the top while older stock is at the bottom. I picked up a label maker on sale and now I'm sticking labels on everything around the house. I skipped labeling the single vials earlier. Instead I bought kits three at a time, packed them into thermoses that hold thirty vials each, labeled the outside and lid, then dropped the whole thing in the freezer. Mixed batches went in with different colored caps and I noted what each color stood for. Now I want every individual vial marked with its contents, source, fill amount, batch number, and purchase date. New kits can be done that way, but I also want to handle the ten years of stock already frozen. Those thermoses have stayed sealed with desiccant packs inside. Labeling any group means opening the container and dumping the vials out.
One thing to think about is that I keep a list of every kit with mass, seller, date, cap color and so on. When I fill a thermos I just print that list and drop the paper inside. That lets me label the vials only when I actually pull them out to use. If you really want someone to talk you out of it, maybe label your vanilla beans or lotions instead to scratch the itch.
Yeah I already did exactly that. I really did. 😭
Could you keep your face inside the freezer and work in small groups? Open the door for a moment, rest your elbows on the shelf, slap on ten stickers fast, then shut it for ten minutes so the temperature drops again. Gloves would keep your hands from warming the vials. It might even feel more scientific that way.
They're packed so tightly inside the thermoses that I'd really have to dump them out to reach them. I could tip them onto something already frozen without taking anything out of the freezer itself. Still, if my most worried inner Gollum is correct and letting a batch warm to room temperature for ten minutes then refreezing will hurt them, then I should probably just leave everything alone.
I've done the same thing plenty of times and I'm not worried about it. My vials sat unlabeled in the case until the printer arrived. I used one label maker for the vials, then switched to another when I got round labels. One whole case stayed out maybe ten minutes. With new arrivals I label sides and caps before they go away. They've already been through warehouses and trucks, so one more day out won't matter.
Are you using water-resistant vinyl labels? I'm worried about that part.
It would be useful to know exactly what each one is. These things already sit in warehouses and go through big temperature swings on the way here and they survive. I think it will be okay. Some peptides don't like very cold storage, so make sure you're keeping them correctly from the start. I leave mine out until I finish labeling.
No, I'm not using those, and that's part of why I'm a little uneasy. I do have printed COAs tucked in there just in case, but the labels I have now are paper. I'm not even sure about the new label maker's material. They feel sort of rubbery though.
I've got mostly those two main peptides tirz together with reta plus just a small amount of survo along with epitalon and several packages of klow but so far nothing has been mixed up at all.
I know the peps handle coming out of cold storage okay when needed for marking. Yet that extra step wastes time.
I can't find the link now, but someone on another forum tested three lyophilized vials left out for weeks under three conditions: hot porch, non-climate garage, and room temperature. They compared results to the same batch tested earlier. There was almost no difference in degradation. The porch one lost maybe 0.001-2 percent potency but everything else held up. I'm going to hunt for that post tonight. Bottom line, I don't think a defrost cycle to label them would hurt. I've done it myself, though I'm not decades deep like some. Just enough to know I'll never be overweight again.
I just did this the other day with hydrapeaks that have 3 ml vial silicon inserts and I wasn't very concerned. They won't be out long, and it will make things easier later when you need to grab one quickly. From now on you'll label before freezing, but for now just move fast and you should be fine.
HELL YES!!! YOU GO GIRL!!! I'm with that. Get that stuff labeled!!!!! If you've got the time it's a great idea. You've already put money and effort into this hobby, so take it further!!!!!!
Having gone through three divorces without children means my free hours outside work and rest can go toward any sudden impulse that hits. Thanks for that. Working on a certain song with sticks on the kit will likely mean waiting a bit before anyone jumps in to correct details, even though I really wanted some movement on the idea. I've decided against it now. Advancing further just isn't appealing at all. Does anyone want this gadget for nothing?
I can take those out for labeling without any trouble even if they warm up. Afterwards I just return them to storage. Still that whole thing turns into a real hassle.
I want to do the same thing. But I know I'll probably like a new label design better later. I can already see myself peeling the old ones off to put on the new design. Who knows how many times that would happen. So far I'm just leaving them alone.
I'm unsure what the others think but repeatedly freezing and then thawing could damage the reta I'm keeping. Moisture tends to form on the outside of the containers which would keep any labels from staying put unless I let them warm up fully and dry first. So I'm against it.
Darn it, this lines up exactly with the fears my greedy little internal voice has been obsessing over.
I'm with that, the degradation will likely be extremely negligible.
I wish this excitement could last longer. Halting everything at this stage would leave roughly two dozen solid entries along with extras trailing off as momentum fades. Yet if containers came out and tagging got underway that might prove spectacular. I would even skip a workday just to be right there amid all the action.
There's likely a storage supervisor somewhere feeling a moment of quiet pride. I back this kind of dedication completely. Nothing ends up spoiled since the drive more than covers any gaps. Honestly I've repeated the same thing endless times. You'd figure I'd catch on and avoid skipping the step of marking items ahead of the freezer just out of habit. The point remains they turn out okay every time.
Honestly, sitting around until all the containers warm up isn't something I'd have the time for, then cleaning off the moisture from every single one, putting names on them, and putting them back in the cold. Trying to mark them while still icy means the tags likely won't adhere right, so it wouldn't work out. Still, it seems like you'll go ahead with the plan regardless, since that's how I'd react if someone tried talking me out of it. I agree with marking other household items instead. Once the kitchen storage is done, there are always the cabinets or bathroom supplies to consider.
I don't know much about the materials used in those labels. They've always stuck well for me on the tubes and lids, even with a bit of moisture when coming out of the freezer. I just do a quick wipe with a tissue.
Taking them from the cold storage for marking isn't a problem at all. Clean the container using a cloth and apply the tag directly. These hold firmly in place, that's for sure. One ended up tilted so I figured it wasn't acceptable. Peeling it back required real work to adjust its position. Apologies, but I fully support this choice and tend to encourage such things too. 🤷♀️
I added a scannable tag to my flask exterior that connects to a list or sheet tracking the stored items and it fixed one issue for me haha.
I needed to manage an identical chore after getting my equipment since several tubes stored cold required markings. I removed the holder applied a sticker to every one then returned everything to the chilled spot which lasted barely a few moments total. I placed each marking and tucked them into their padded compartments letting them rest once more in the cold.
Everyone's making way too big a deal out of the whole situation.
That takes too much effort. I either check the table I keep or lift the cover to inspect the upper parts of those little bottles.
Maybe fetching my sets now and then just to hold and stroke them gently turns out to be off limits.
I chuck the lot into a sack and slap a label on it.
At first I felt anxious since a marker was how I identified everything initially and I feared mix-ups later on. The wipes with alcohol make the ink fade from the vials. So I took one from cold storage let it dry and attempted to apply a sticker but it failed to adhere. I wondered if thawing and freezing again was necessary. Instead I noted the contents on paper and kept that inside my storage case. My collection isn't huge right now so perhaps I'll mark the following batch ahead of time. The upcoming purchase will take up an entire case by itself allowing me to include the papers and origin details with them. It feels like extra effort though since I mostly get and use only one type. I do like those cap sticker labels.
That seems really good! Are the analysis certificates available for each item shown? 😎 👍
Is this extra effort? Beyond just creating those small tags? It could be. Working in tech, handling codes along with data tables feels pretty routine to me, haha.
I was thinking about putting this off till the freezing season comes and moving them out to the yard for identification purposes, but really I was just playing around. I went ahead and handled it right this moment, haha
Sure thing, I'll spend a moment working on the image in Photoshop.
I did exactly that myself. Over the past half year I stored all items in the refrigerator pending the certificate after which I would mark them and place them into cold storage within the padded compartment of the zipped holder. Regarding the previously chilled packages lacking tags I performed the identical process since the markings had already been prepared labeling each one along with inserting it into the holder and returning it to cold storage required no more than a couple of minutes at most.
This discussion is wild. I got bulk amounts of several peptides and divided them into smaller portions using tiny tubes to limit freeze-thaw cycles. I always add labels though, since mixing up certain items can cause real trouble, especially a couple of specific ones.
It's fine but I wouldn't. I only label the first vial in each row of a kit. For example if one type is a certain color I'll mark just the first one with the name and dose, and leave the rest unmarked. It works most of the time but has caused mix-ups when an empty marked vial gets tossed. I keep the marked empty one in place as a reminder of the dosing.
Oh my god, how could I not have considered this earlier? Anyway, discussion closed, but you're welcome to hang around for snacks and chat. This fixes every single one of my problems. Well, aside from the urge to put tags on roughly three hundred containers, though I suppose I could handle that by getting it done between now and the cold season.
I note the details right on those glass containers and how everything feels when doing this intense labor.
Feeling bleary-eyed after staying awake late, I initially joked that a company was hiring children to tag peptides and upholding the traditional right of kids to have employment. I really enjoy doing labels. However the circular ones in gentle tones that I possess are sized for larger volumes so I had to slice them smaller by hand. It seems quite crazy.
Curious what dimensions folks are working with on their labels. I've picked up a few circular ones measuring four tenths of an inch.
Yeah, that seems smarter overall. Back when I got the mixed batches, most containers held the bigger size, so those soft-toned stickers worked out nicely for the dimensions. After switching over, I noticed the smaller ones had become the usual standard. I still have loads of those sticker sheets on hand, and the tones look stylish. I deal with each batch separately, turning it into a relaxing creative pause. I keep one pair of cutters just for the sticky sheets and wipe them often with cleaning pads so I never damage my better tools. I've gotten pretty skilled at forming round shapes. I like picking up new stuff yet also care about stretching what I have, and balancing those pulls can feel tricky.
Concerns like these are why I'm keeping mine chilled in the fridge. Can the extra time it lasts when frozen really balance out the problems that come with freezing and thawing it?
Right now I'm checking out possibilities with those two compounds to see which one might fit my needs. Your arrangement comes across as quite practical and streamlined. What concerns me is the added effort from all the ongoing manipulation plus changing the tags. By the way, which version of label maker are you employing?
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