stubborn subq belly fat at low body fat despite peptides training and TRT

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Huh? My understanding is that visceral fat is what gets targeted according to the FDA.

BMI is 22 and no loose skin at all. You can feel the fat when you pinch the skin. That's the spot where I inject my Reta and it works well for the needle.

From what I gather HGH lowers visceral fat so tesamorelin does the same by raising natural HGH output. Other secretagogues don't get the same mention only because tesa alone had a dedicated study. I could be off but it seems HGH itself drives the visceral loss and the delivery method doesn't matter much. Most folks also mix up belly fat with visceral fat so none of this may matter anyway.

That would be subcutaneous fat. Visceral fat sits between the organs so you can't pinch it.

Thanks for the first suggestion, that was funny. I was thinking of just continuing with the reta since I still have plenty. I assume tesa comes lyophilized and needs reconstituting.

At a BMI of 22 you should already be seeing decent results unless the muscle isn't developed enough yet. I recall guys at the club who would dehydrate to fix the same issue.

No it isn't. The studies showed fifteen percent visceral reduction over six months at two milligrams daily but belly flab is subq not visceral. Overall weight didn't drop either so the visceral fat just moved elsewhere. People get this wrong because they skip reading the actual studies. You're at a much lower body fat now so large deficits will strip muscle instead of belly fat. A smaller deficit around five hundred calories lets the belly fat keep coming off while sparing muscle even if it feels counterintuitive.

Interesting take, sounds like you're speaking for everyone. I also think most people mix up belly fat and visceral fat so none of this really matters anyway.

I figured it was subcutaneous.

Calm down. How did my comment come across like that?

You're right on the visceral part. Tesa can still help with belly fat though love handles respond less. Running sprints after workouts burns waist fat pretty well.

I think the BMI mentioned is 22.

I stopped using it about six months ago and switched to hgh with much better results.

What's your protocol?

I ran two iu for roughly four months and now do one point five iu in the morning while fasted.

You nailed the tesamorelin study details. It also showed belly fat itself didn't change much but waist measurement did drop which can improve the look. The same five hundred calorie rule applies when increasing intake to raise maintenance without adding much fat assuming weight training is part of it.

Intermittent fasting combined with tesa can work but HGH might be stronger though riskier so I'm not a fan. Slow and steady wins. Tesa can also limit muscle loss to some degree.

If you're not already lifting this is the piece that's missing based on my own experience. Recomp changes the fat to muscle balance and shifts how the body handles extra calories while the repair process boosts metabolism. Get a solid weight training plan like 5x5 going before adding HGH or hormones and save those for when training is already on point.

Tesa was made to target visceral fat around the organs not love handles. Does it also affect subq fat?

At BMI twenty two you're already in good shape. You could try twenty one and reassess or even twenty point five. Resistance training helps overall health. I prefer bodyweight moves like pull ups push ups squats lunges hip thrusts plus some weights for deadlifts shoulders rows and ab work like the roller planks and leg raises. For pure leanness stairmaster and rowing machine cardio works but I usually add only ten minutes after lifting because energy runs low.

Since you asked yes it does.

The extra flesh on the belly and hips is probably loose skin as well. Weight lifting should help tighten it at least that's what I'm hoping while doing the same routine.

Most guys carrying extra gut weight are dealing with visceral fat. Subq fat usually drops evenly so when all the weight shows in the stomach area that's typically visceral. Without photos or more details we can't know for sure that was just my guess.

A couple notes I'm older than most here and retired for a few years so I don't move like I used to but I'm not just sitting watching TV. I mow my three lots do the trimming and all the yard work myself. I won't paint though I hate it. I'm installing new luxury vinyl in the spare bedrooms and need to ease back into light weights sit ups and walking. The BMI from my Renpho scale is actually twenty two point six with body fat at twenty four percent both have edged down a bit each Friday. Thanks for all the input so far it's been useful.

How has the switch gone for you? I'm about to do the same.

It's correct that internal fat can make the stomach protrude. However quite a few people here maintain a normal body mass at present. The digital weighing devices assuming their accuracy along with lab tests indicate minimal amounts of that internal fat. Yet we can grab multiple centimeters worth of abdominal tissue. This shows that a decent quantity of the outer layer fat remains around our midsection.

I'm avoiding Tesa entirely. My dinners feature plenty of protein from beef cuts, pork, poultry or seafood, served with steamed vegetables or a salad. Carbs come in as well, all via Reta. The schedule began 1/9/26 and ran four weeks at 2mg, five at 4mg, one at 5mg, six at 6mg, two at 7mg, then five at 8mg. Those 5mg and 7mg stretches stayed short since nothing occurred. I'll move to 9mg soon. My spouse is doing the exact same thing.

I monitor my nutrient intake via a phone program since lots of choices exist for that. Keeping up wholesome meals while on this protocol makes me stay patient as results should arrive before long. That matches my own perspective though your body composition reading looks ideal right now and nice work shedding the extra pounds.

Lots of folks also guess too low on how much fat they're carrying and figure that percentage only means shedding three or four kilos when it's commonly more like ten or twelve.

Yeah I see that too. Beginning with higher fat levels and then dropping thirty pounds doesn't alter the overall shape much unlike when already at a low level and losing that weight which creates a big contrast in appearance. It seems like some kind of equation since the reading stops shifting much yet how everything looks changes a ton. The amount coming off slows more and more as time passes with the number on the scale leveling out little by little. At the same time the appearance shifts fast so even small drops like a fraction of a pound stand out right away. This shows up most when shedding the last few pounds. It's pretty wild.