I went through some online resources and read plenty of community threads covering amounts for those two compounds. Numerous entries described starting amounts for each one. Beginning at half to one milligram came up often as a careful choice, with gradual increases only after no unwanted effects appeared.
planning a trip abroad soon and wondering if ramping the amount faster makes sense for me. height five eight weight sixty six kilos around twenty percent body fat aiming for sixty. started at point two five milligrams last weekend appetite dropped off fast and i feel satisfied sooner. minor stomach upset showed up but nothing major and rest at night shortened slightly. training four sessions weekly with some sparring mixed in. next step might be point three five milligrams to test tolerance. really hoping for a toned midsection so i can feel good without a shirt. the supply i have should stretch given the small amounts used so far. aware that bigger amounts bring tougher reactions yet the current ones feel manageable enough to push a little. day three in and i gave in to delivery food again which makes me think maybe the jump is doable. also looking at adding another compound but info on pairing them seems thin anyone running both and sharing how it went.