Testosterone and long-standing hunger or appetite problems during transition

Apparently very much so from what I'm seeing here.

That's amusing! Guys produce that hormone too, and too much of it might lead to irritability along with various other issues for males. Your comments were about your expertise in this area, without any focus on females whatsoever. A major health authority would not agree with all that experience you claim regarding elevated levels in males. Nothing in the original message concerned females; you just made that assumption yourself.

Everyone acknowledges males produce some estrogen and that chemical messengers influence feelings. Females likewise generate testosterone. Yet irritability alone fails to indicate abnormally high levels of that hormone in lab terms. Recommending lab tests fits the discussion here. Guessing elevated readings from one conversation stands apart. Prejudice remains biased regardless of targeting males instead. The jab still equates the hormone with unreasonableness or excess sentiment.

You're the only one I've seen bringing up women in this thread. Moodiness is a symptom of high estrogen no matter the sex. Maybe play with your cats and get your estrogen checked. Moodiness is still a recognized clinical symptom.

The comments about my cats and estrogen aren't needed. They do show the point I was making though.

I do think you're a valuable community contributor and have been glad to see your posts. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether this was sexist in any way.

Thank you. I'm not here for validation or to please everyone. I'm fine being in the minority on this.

Correct, an obvious satirical parody using dual agonist stereotypes to highlight the earlier imagined slight.

Thanks, I'll check into that. Are those studies still running or already public?

You're clearly not here to help at all. I've said multiple times yes I'm not in range, that's the whole point of using androgens. I'm still doing active bloodwork too. Stop acting like you know anything about androgens because you obviously have no idea. You're pretending you understand my body better than I do.

I follow a ten day training block: push one, pull one, rest, legs one, push two, pull two, rest, legs two, rest. Using JP's program so moderate volume high frequency and very high intensity. Was definitely under fifteen percent body fat maybe around twelve percent a couple weeks ago. Calorie restriction is one factor driving the binges but even in a surplus things go off the rails just as badly.

You say you're on TRT but that's not TRT that's cycling which you argued against until now. I have three decades of research and two decades of steroid use. Your last post only proved I was right. I was just trying to explain it's not TRT and would raise appetite in anyone. If you weren't so defensive you might see that.

I'm actually a low aromatizer and my e2 stays very balanced relative to my total anabolic load. I'm not getting aggressive just insanely frustrated that you're not here to help but instead pushing your abstract thinking on me.

Still doesn't change that it didn't raise my appetite. If an engine is already running at full capacity like my hunger then any potential amplifier won't increase the output.

Raising the testosterone dose stops reta from dulling those hunger signals the way it normally does. Not expanding on it any further.

Testosterone really won't raise appetite enough to make a GLP-1 ineffective.

You can never get enough of what you don't need, quote Eric Hoffer.

It wrecked me pretty badly 😳 I nearly rushed to the hospital yet refused to back down. I also began sema at half the amount. My extreme sensitivity showed this level topped my prior peak by 1.5mg.

I spotted research testing semaglutide given weekly to grown-ups facing trouble with alcohol dependence. The design used random assignment across groups in the experiment.

You might be surprised, there is another thread with ftm folks trying to sort out GLP-1 while adjusting their T doses and the tone there is supportive. Test really does shift things, so I would not dismiss it. I went through an online provider for the prescription and they warned me I would need to watch my intake closely. I stayed on a female dose and was not strict with eating, which cost me seven pounds. Hyperthyroid never moved the scale for me and neither did hypothyroid, but testosterone did. Remember hormones need about twelve weeks to settle, it is not only about blood levels but the body adjusting fully. That does not mean benefits cannot show up sooner, it is just a slow process overall. My own HRT and thyroid experiences have moved at that same slow pace. Half my thyroid was removed and I ended up with low estrogen symptoms. Everything is oddly connected and the slow pace is frustrating. SSRIs really wrecked my appetite control, after three or four months on escitalopram I never felt full until I was stuffed and put on twenty pounds.

Of course the amount of bro and gym culture on social media and forums does not help. Add bro science and it leads to poor choices based on bad information. Supraphysiological levels of anything are not healthy. Labs cannot detect microscopic damage such as to the epithelium. Males already age faster cardiovascularly than females by nearly a decade on average. My body my choice, but if nothing is said the bro science keeps winning. People push past healthy just to reach a look that is not realistic for most of us. Looks can kill according to one doctor’s account.

Maybe care to elaborate. I am genuinely looking for help and I appreciate everyone chiming in, but I really do not think testosterone is the main issue since I have had these eating problems for a very long time.

It is frustrating that everyone keeps pointing at testosterone as if this single variable explains everything when I have dealt with these issues for over two years. Why argue against my own experience? If you want to convince me testosterone is truly driving the problem, maybe explain the mechanism.

It is kind of sad that an adult has to respond that way.