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SS-31 with MOTS-C, not before…

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Summary

Should you take SS-31 before starting MOTS-C or can the two be used together?

Users report running MOTS-C successfully on its own for daytime energy and have tried adding SS-31 either sequentially or at the same time. One detailed protocol cycles SS-31 every two MOTS-C blocks while keeping NAD+ continuous, but others simply combine SS-31 and MOTS-C and notice better gym energy. A skeptical reply points out there are almost no human trials supporting any combined or ordered use of the two peptides.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether SS-31 must precede MOTS-C or can be taken simultaneously, and how much weight to give anecdotal reports versus the lack of supporting human trials.

Still open

Optimal long-term cycling or dosing strategy for healthy users.

Nothing here is advice.

11 replies · 7 people
SharpHarbour41archiveopening postMay 3

Over five weeks my daily MOTS-C intake has produced solid results so far. SS-31 never came into the picture beforehand. Mixing the two now seems worth considering. Can they be used together, or must I pause the first one, run the second for roughly a month, then return to the original?

CopperBeacon48archiveMay 3

There is no single recommended approach. If someone has had a lifetime of poor habits, SS-31 is often suggested first to support the mitochondria before adding MOTS-C, after which you can run MOTS-C and NAD+. In some cases there is no evidence against using both at the same time if you are already healthy. For most people the sequence is SS-31 first then MOTS-C, and SS-31 can be used again during breaks in the MOTS-C cycle. I would run it every two MOTS-C cycles. My own suggestion is continuous NAD+ from the start, then ten 10 mg vials of SS-31 at 5 mg per day for 20 days, followed by eight 10 mg vials of MOTS-C at 3.3 mg three days per week for eight weeks with a four-week break, repeat that MOTS-C block, then repeat SS-31 during the next break. This cycles SS-31 every two MOTS-C cycles, though it can be adjusted many ways.

WarmThistle43archiveMay 3

I was following the SS-31 and NAD+ first protocol and planned to add MOTS-C later, but then saw a video about running them at the same time and switched. Now I am using both together and the combination is helping with energy at the gym. I am not keen on NAD+ and am thinking of dropping it.

SharpHarbour41archiveMay 3
↳ replying to @CopperBeacon48

I'm puzzled by the notation involving x10, x8 and similar terms. Specifically, I'm wondering about the significance of x10 10mg SS-31 - 5mg per day for 20 days. I grasp the idea of ingesting 5mg daily throughout 20 days but remain uncertain regarding the x10 notation.

SharpHarbour41archiveMay 3
↳ replying to @WarmThistle43

I'm curious which parts of NAD+ you find less appealing.

CopperSignal27archiveMay 3

People's regimens contain nothing but invented notions. Research offers no backing at all for combining those compounds or taking them in any order. One substance gained approval for a rare inherited mitochondrial problem yet human studies for other uses mostly disappointed and work halted. Apart from rodent experiments no further development appears active for additional conditions. A related variant completed an initial safety test and may start a follow-up aimed at liver fat accumulation. Human testing stops there for both items. Separate cell and mouse work hints at useful actions but most candidates that look good in those settings never succeed later in people so assuming the same results carry over remains unwise. Nothing in lab or animal data addresses using them jointly or in sequence. Someone once suggested a reason for that particular order which helps market the items but carries no research weight. Each compound produces genuine biological changes. Enough studies on the first one indicate it fails to deliver expected outcomes like easing heart strain though it proved harmless during testing. The second one seems more intriguing since it copies exercise effects in rodents but a lone early human trial focused on liver issues fails to establish safety or matching metabolic gains in people. It might still turn out safe and helpful after many more stages yet that would need a firm willing to fund extensive trials. One company pursues it for liver fat and keeps advancing but those efforts will not confirm value for other purposes.

SharpHarbour41archiveMay 3
↳ replying to @CopperSignal27

I appreciate the response. Outcomes are often uncertain with these. It probably won't do any harm if I experiment with the other option. The one I've been taking has really helped me out a lot. My whole life feels different now because of it.

BrightSignal52archiveMay 3
↳ replying to @SharpHarbour41

My order includes ten separate containers holding ten milligrams apiece of the peptide. The schedule begins by consuming an entire collection of the ten-milligram version.

SharpHarbour41archiveMay 3

That explanation really helps and everything fits together for me after this.

GreyHarbour98archiveMay 4
↳ replying to @SharpHarbour41

I'm hoping to learn more about this substance. Could you describe the transformations it brought to your daily life? Which improvements did you aim for ahead of time and which ones actually showed up during your experience?

SharpHarbour41archiveMay 4
↳ replying to @GreyHarbour98

I had problems with staying awake during the day until I began using this new thing. My physician had given a prescription for a medication aimed at fixing the issue. Yet that drug would only function properly for a short period before my tolerance increased and effectiveness disappeared. Consequently I needed to stop using it temporarily for about several days or more. After which I could restart the cycle. This left me in a state of ongoing tiredness and low energy. Since incorporating the latest addition my energy levels have normalized completely. As a result I no longer rely on the earlier medication at all.

PatientCompass14archiveMay 4
↳ replying to @CopperBeacon48

Your breakdown came across so clearly that I followed every bit without any trouble even after a rough night before. Much obliged.

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