Thoughts on too many peps?

Thanks, I am pretty much the same way, jump in first and ask later, LOL.

That is hopefully where I will be in six months.

Can you tell me a little about NAD if you have time? What do you think of it, how often do you use it, and at what dose?

I feel really good compared to a month ago. I tried NAD for the first time yesterday and the energy hit right away. I began with a low dose and rate it highly.

Why add cag on top of the reta? What dose of reta are you using?

I am on 2 mg of Reta. The reason I am doing any of this feels like I turned myself into a full science project. I basically ordered what seemed popular online. Right now that adds up to Reta 2 mg started at .5, Tesa 1 mg, IPA/CJ at a ratio I forget, Mots-c 3 mg three days a week, and KLOW .15 after 3 ml reconstitute.

Eli Lilly trials have reta dosing start at 2 mg per week for four weeks, then 4 mg for four, 6 mg for four, 9 mg for four, then 12 mg for four.

My reta dose is 1.5 mg. I only want to lose 10 kg so I am not planning to go much higher, though I may move to 2 mg and stay there. Food noise was very strong for me and with ADHD the urge to eat for dopamine is constant. Adding cag at 0.2 ml helped that a lot. I still eat three meals and hit protein but the constant craving when not hungry is gone.

That lines up with the rough plan I used when deciding what to take, LOL.

Trial schedules aside, I lost my appetite at 3 mg and had to drop back to .5. A friend felt nothing until after six weeks at 3 mg. Start low. You can always add another shot mid-week if needed.

Might be too late, but only add one new item at a time and wait between them. If side effects or an allergy shows up you will not know which caused it, and you also will not know which ones actually helped.

This is all you need. Zippity, feel free to close the thread.

Did adding Cag to your stack reduce food noise for you? I do not respond to Tirz or Reta. I stopped Tirz and am going to try Cag with Reta.

I have a couple beginner questions. I am only on reta right now, mainly to lose body fat and improve health, but I see many people add HGH. Are there downsides? I prefer fewer compounds and my test levels were normal last check. I used to think HGH meant classic steroid problems like ball shrinkage or hair loss, but it seems that is not the case. Is there good info on this stack, proper dosing, and risks?

Growth is not a steroid. There is a good video on the RP Strength channel about the combination.

There are potential downsides to hgh along with upsides. Peptides, hormones, and steroids are different categories. It comes down to your own risk tolerance. Look up the test and reta info separately. Meso has solid details on that stack. They work well together when dosed right, but I do not really know much, just an octopus, so do not take my word for it.

HGH and secretagogues like tesamorelin have complicated effects, many not well studied long term in humans. The goal is usually less visceral fat and more muscle, though reta already reduces visceral fat well. Side effects can be serious and lasting, so research thoroughly first. Get IGF-1, blood sugar, and HbA1c checked beforehand. Common short-term issues include higher blood sugar, fluid retention with ankle swelling, carpal tunnel, and joint or muscle pain. Longer-term effects in older adults are not studied much because these are not prescribed for general fat loss or muscle gain except in specific medical cases like HIV lipodystrophy. Higher dose or longer use risks include diabetes and acromegaly.

I think I will leave that idea alone for now. It is tempting to try to optimize everything, but I am still getting used to reta by itself. Slow and steady seems better.

To me, hgh is not worth it.