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Reta washout timeout

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Summary

Should someone on retatrutide or tirzepatide pause GLP-1 treatment for a month or more to manage atrial fibrillation and diarrhea side effects?

The original poster paused injections after nearly a year on tirzepatide then retatrutide due to AFib and ongoing loose stools, planning a washout before restarting at lower doses. Others noted that cycling appears counterproductive for sustained weight loss and that retatrutide can raise heart rate more than tirzepatide, though the AFib here was linked to dehydration rather than the drug itself. Fiber supplements like psyllium helped somewhat but did not fully resolve diarrhea; dose splitting and slower titration were suggested as alternatives to stopping. The thread ends with the poster resuming tirzepatide after cardioversion restored sinus rhythm.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

Whether periodic washouts are advisable for long-term GLP-1 users or if continuous use with dose adjustments is preferable

Still open

Whether retatrutide specifically increases arrhythmia risk compared with tirzepatide in patients with existing AFib

Nothing here is advice.

29 replies · 11 people
PatientThistle39archiveopening postJul 13

I've been using GLP-1 drugs for almost a year, six months on tirzepatide followed by nearly six on retatrutide, and have dropped about 18 kg while still needing more loss. Heart issues with atrial fibrillation plus the anticoagulant Apixaban led me to pause the shots. I intend to stay off for at least a month in hopes the AF resolves, possibly with electrical cardioversion. Looking for views on whether a yearly washout month makes sense, especially for anyone expecting lifelong GLP-1 use.

CopperSignal27archiveJul 13

Might be worth switching back to tirzepatide since cardiovascular data for retatrutide is still limited. Forum reports suggest retatrutide can raise heart rate more noticeably and may worsen some arrhythmias in certain people. Sleep problems, anxiety, or panic attacks appear more common with it, pointing to variable sympathetic effects. Average heart-rate increase is smaller with tirzepatide. A paper on retatrutide and arrhythmias or panic may appear eventually. Worth asking a cardiologist.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @CopperSignal27

My AF is asymptomatic and resting heart rate sits around 50 bpm, up only slightly from 47-48 before retatrutide. This is not the first episode; two years ago severe dehydration from gastroenteritis triggered it without any GLP-1 use. Recent diarrhea episodes likely lowered blood pressure and caused dehydration this time, so retatrutide is only indirectly involved. Five milligrams weekly seems the highest dose I tolerate without side effects, same as with tirzepatide. My cardiologist actually recommended GLP-1 therapy and saw no AF link.

LevelThistle44archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

Washout periods or cycling look counterproductive for lasting GLP-1 benefits and weight-loss results. One study showed cycling induces therapeutic resistance and raises adiposity. What are you hoping to achieve with the break when the AF does not appear tied to ongoing peptide use?

WarmSparrow60archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Anyone considering a GLP-1 should read that study first to grasp the long-term commitment. Retatrutide users expecting to cycle are finding there really is no off-ramp; stopping leads to a difficult rebound and restarting does not work the same way.

GreyAlder39archiveJul 13

I was on Victoza during radiofrequency ablation for atrial flutter and have stayed on the anticoagulant since, first with tirzepatide then with the combination. No contraindications noted. Post-exercise heart rate stays a bit elevated but neither my cardiologist nor primary doctor is concerned. Other peptides like SS-31 lower my heart rate during aerobic work.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Main aim is to clear up the diarrhea completely before resuming GLP-1 drugs. Even though it occurs only a couple of days a week it seems to have triggered the electrolyte and blood-pressure shifts behind the AF.

PlainQuill85archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Thanks, that study is useful. Would be good to have a section in the group for science-based papers.

LevelThistle44archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

Thread has gone in several directions. Split dosing, lowering the dose, staying consistent, and possibly adding supplements have all been mentioned for easing symptoms.

LevelThistle44archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @WarmSparrow60

Not sure cycling has much support for larger users. People focused on cutting might respond differently.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Psyllium husk, one spoonful morning and evening, improved the diarrhea a lot but did not stop it entirely; it still occurs in a milder form. Low blood pressure over recent weeks seems related. I want the diarrhea gone before restarting GLP-1 at the same effective point as before. Cycling may not be ideal, yet how else to resolve the loose stools?

LevelThistle44archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

Fiber is worth trying. I use PHGG instead of psyllium. Earlier dose increases caused noticeable urgency; stepping back briefly then continuing helped. Now at 18 mg weekly my GI function is actually better than before the peptides. What works for one person may not for another, and cycling still runs counter to steady weight-loss goals.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Highest tirzepatide dose was 7.5 mg weekly before dropping to 5 mg because of diarrhea. Switched to retatrutide starting at 2 mg and going up to 6 mg, again with significant loose stools, so returned to 5 mg. Weight loss then stalled, so I tried 5 mg every five days and added a small amount of Cagri for six weeks. Five milligrams every five days became the best balance and was used for two months until the AF prompted stopping.

LevelThistle44archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

Have you tried splitting the dose further, say every 3.5 days? It keeps the same average exposure while lowering peaks that often trigger symptoms.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 13
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44

Dose splitting reduced the diarrhea but did not eliminate it.

PlainAlder11archiveJul 13

What did the doctors say about the ongoing diarrhea?

CopperSignal27archiveJul 14

Interesting that psyllium helped diarrhea; most fibers worsen it. Higher doses might be worth testing. GLP-1s usually slow the gut for me, so persistent loose stools are less common than expected. Still aiming to lose more weight? Could lowering the retatrutide dose be an option? Retatrutide does not seem to be driving the AF directly. Electrolytes should be checked periodically because diarrhea can affect them and secondarily impact heart rhythm.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 14
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

Doctor agreed that diarrhea alone probably would not cause AF but a sudden blood-pressure drop could. Online information indicates GLP-1 agonists are generally linked to lower atrial-fibrillation risk through weight loss and metabolic improvements.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 14
↳ replying to @CopperSignal27

At 7.5 mg tirzepatide or 6 mg retatrutide the diarrhea became severe with cramps. At 5 mg retatrutide stools stay loose; psyllium makes them more formed. Still need to lose another 15 kg and would like to stay at the manageable 5 mg every five days once the AF and residual loose stools are sorted.

PlainAlder11archiveJul 14

Which medications are you taking for the AFib?

PlainAlder11archiveJul 14

I am on metoprolol 50 mg and lisinopril 10 mg twice daily. AF came with severe pneumonia years ago; the cardiologist keeps both drugs even though I have been fine since. He still complains about two beers a day but is otherwise a good doctor.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 30

Four weeks off all GLP-1 and weight-loss peptides and diarrhea has been gone for at least three weeks. Sinus rhythm returned after electrical cardioversion two days ago. Still midway through weight loss, so I plan to restart injections after the washout, beginning with tirzepatide at 2.5 mg weekly and titrating more slowly. Might add Cagri or retatrutide later, possibly in a 2:1 ratio with tirzepatide. Any suggestions welcome.

GreyCinder78archiveJul 30

Good to hear the AFib is resolved for now. After two cardioversions that only held briefly, ablation ended my year-long AFib and I have been symptom-free for a year. Worth asking about if episodes return. Best of luck restarting.

PatientThistle39archiveJul 30
↳ replying to @GreyCinder78

Ablation is one option I am considering and have a cardiology appointment booked. Did you use GLP-1 medications while the AFib was active?

GreyCinder78archiveJul 30
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

I did not. I monitored heart rate closely on the medications and had some early tachycardia that later settled.

IronMarble78archiveJul 31

In my experience the cold-like symptoms eventually disappeared, so perhaps adjustment time is needed.

PatientHarbour28archiveJul 31

Worth noting that retatrutide trials excluded people with resting heart rate over 100 bpm or prior atrial fibrillation. Tirzepatide showed AFib rates essentially identical to placebo.

BlueSignal97archiveJul 31
↳ replying to @PatientThistle39

Apixaban is only an anticoagulant and does not treat the AFib itself. Discuss adding a beta blocker such as metoprolol or an antiarrhythmic like flecainide with the cardiologist. AFib tends to progress with age.

PatientThistle39archiveAug 1
↳ replying to @BlueSignal97

Beta blockers and most antiarrhythmics are unsuitable because resting heart rate is already low at 50-55 bpm. Plan is catheter ablation to try to resolve the AFib permanently. Heart-rate screenshot from smartwatch added.

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