If gallbladder pain shows up, deal with it. My husband ended up in the ER for an attack and they found something else that needed surgery right away. He put off the gallbladder for a long time and they later found cancer on the biopsy. That led to another operation. He's okay now, but gallbladder cancer is serious. Don't mess around with the pain.
Exercise triggered gallbladder pain stones management options
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↳ replying to @ClearAnchor21
Want to try some taurine while you figure it out?
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Saw the taurine suggestion earlier and looked into it. Ended up ordering TUDCA instead, which should arrive today. Thanks for the tip.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61 (opening post)
I had surgery that took the stones out but left the gallbladder. Learned a lot about what actually causes stones. Low fat diets aren't the fix people think. When the gallbladder doesn't empty fully the bile sits and forms crystals. The advice was to eat a fatty breakfast at least three times a week because around twenty five grams of fat gets near full contraction. That old olive oil and lemon trick in the morning lines up with the research. Skipping breakfast altogether adds to the risk. During weight loss they gave ursodiol because the meds slow digestion and the gallbladder contracts less, so the drug keeps the bile from thickening. Same approach used after bariatric surgery.
↳ replying to @LevelThistle44
TUDCA works well as prevention. It's basically ursodiol bound to taurine, more water soluble, and people like it for gallbladder support. Usually easier on the system than the prescription version, though I take a maintenance dose of that and haven't had issues. Helps offset the effects of rapid weight loss.
↳ replying to @BrightLantern29
Ordering the TUDCA looks like the right call for now. Appreciate the details. You're my new gallbladder expert.
Thread's been wild. Just felt the stone move again. Looks like I need to pick up some of those bile salt meds. Can't afford surgery at all.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61 (opening post)
I have stones too but was told removal only makes sense if function drops. Knew that before starting the meds so I've been careful with dose jumps and staying hydrated. No pain so far and no plans to remove it unless it becomes a real problem. Feeling them shift sounds rough though, sorry you're dealing with that.
↳ replying to @IronCinder88
It's not too bad. Doesn't really hurt and the attacks are milder than most stories. Makes me feel better hearing that. Planning to get the TUDCA or the prescription version, which also gives a chance to stock up on other things from overseas. Seems mild enough to handle with meds for now. Only notice it when skipping breakfast on very low calorie days.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Shame cost has to factor into whether you fix something causing pain, but that's how it works. Hope you feel better soon, though don't ignore it if surgery really becomes necessary. Maybe check options that could make it doable.
↳ replying to @ClearBramble68
I see it differently. Surgery has only been an option for a tiny slice of human history. Living in one of the more advanced places with good medical access means it's reachable if needed. Could walk into an ER tomorrow and probably get it done. When I was working last year I could have just scheduled it and paid the copay. The real issue is how many people right now live where decent care doesn't exist at all. I'm not the one to feel sorry for here.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Fair point, and good if you can skip surgery. Just want the best result for you. That last bit read like a certain Seinfeld bit though, made me laugh.
↳ replying to @ClearBramble68
Never seen that one, but it fits. Friends call me a contrarian anyway. Birthday's coming up in a couple days and I'm not exactly thrilled about it either.
↳ replying to @RustAnchor35
Thanks. How's everything going out there? Oil still doing well? Tacos holding steady?
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
You should check it out then. Happy early birthday.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Keep in mind there are other procedures, even here, that remove stones while leaving the gallbladder. Did it myself and it was the right call. Places like China have been doing versions of it for decades and know the factors that lead to stones coming back. Used to be assumed a gallbladder that makes stones will always do so, but studies show that's not true. Western medicine doesn't always stress how important the organ is for handling fats and absorbing certain vitamins. Low vitamin D can happen even with supplements if stones or sludge are blocking things. Leaving this here for anyone thinking about removal. Other routes exist.
Surgeons at the VA took mine out because of pancreatitis. GLP-1s can trigger that in some people too. Might be worth asking a doctor about that possibility just to be sure.
Update: beef seems to make the attacks worse. Probably the iron, not the meat itself.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Great, I'll pass that along. Thanks.
Without an ultrasound there's no way to know for sure if it's stones or something else. Managing symptoms with supplements when the cause isn't confirmed can mean a lot of trial and error. Clear diagnoses let you pick the right step or none at all, instead of guessing. Not every upper abdominal issue comes from stones.
↳ replying to @CopperSignal27
That's how self diagnosing goes. I'm pretty sure it's stones because the things that should make them worse do, and the things that should help bile flow do help. Losing three pounds a week for ten weeks lines up too. I'll go with that and hope it works. Worst case the meds do nothing harmful and I delay minor issues elsewhere. Doctor route would probably land on the same meds after multiple visits and higher cost.
↳ replying to @PatientThistle65
Rapid weight loss is a known trigger for gallbladder trouble. Worth watching if you're running big deficits.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Good to know. I'm only dropping about a pound a week and hit a plateau now, but I'd rather keep the gallbladder. Thanks for the warning.
↳ replying to @PatientThistle65
Tracking weekly calories against your TDEE can show the real deficit. You can also back calculate from the weight lost since week three and compare to what you logged. If you've been consistent for six or eight weeks, a week at maintenance before another big drop might help.
↳ replying to @QuietSignal61
Not great at tracking every day but I do log it. Been in a deficit for a while. Gym consistency is up so maybe some muscle gain offsetting fat loss. Labs from two weeks ago came back fine.
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