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Summary

how to add retatrutide while already on high-dose tirzepatide for continued weight loss

Users on 15 mg tirzepatide describe slowly lowering that dose while introducing low starting amounts of retatrutide on alternate days, with most reporting they keep the two compounds in separate injections. Storage advice centers on freezing unreconstituted powder and avoiding freeze-thaw cycles once mixed. Several people note improved appetite control and energy from the combination, though results vary and some prefer splitting tirzepatide doses instead.

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

whether to mix the two peptides in a single syringe or always inject separately

Still open

long-term safety of combining high doses and whether swapping entirely to reta would be more effective than stacking

Nothing here is advice.

21 replies · 17 people
RustMarble49archiveopening postApr 12

Been on 15 mg tirz steadily and now want to layer in reta. What starting amount makes sense? Should the shots happen on the same day or different ones? I figure they stay in separate syringes, right? One more thing: does reta have to stay refrigerated, or is the freezer actually okay? I saw something saying the freezer harms it.

QuietSignal61archiveApr 12

The claim about the freezer being bad is not true. Powder that has not been mixed can go in the freezer, the fridge, or even a cool basement. I have never stacked myself, only read about it. If it were me I would drop the tirz by a milligram first and bring reta in gradually, maybe on the off days so the appetite control overlaps. There are more threads here if you search the site.

SteadyTimber49archiveApr 12

Keep the dry powder in the freezer. Switch off days between the two shots. I do 5 mg reta then four days later 5 mg tirz.

IronKettle74archiveApr 13

I combine 10 mg tirz with 4 mg reta. Since I had already used semaglutide before tirz, my system was used to GLP-1s. I began reta at 2 mg and stepped up to 4 mg. Tirz goes in on Thursday, reta on Monday. So far the results are solid.

ClearTimber11archiveApr 13

Started at 8 mg tirz when I added reta. First week was 8 mg tirz Monday and 0.5 mg reta Friday. Next week dropped to 7 mg tirz and raised reta to 1 mg on Friday. Every two weeks I increased reta and lowered tirz until I landed at 4 mg of each. Now I run 5 and 5.

GreyThistle97archiveApr 14
↳ replying to @IronKettle74

I am already at 15 mg tirz through my doctor. Adding any amount of reta on top of that much tirz, does that sound risky?

CopperSignal27archiveApr 14

It depends why you want to add it. I assume you still have weight to lose and are deciding whether to switch or layer it onto the 15 mg tirz. Details like starting weight, goal, current weight, age, height, time on tirz, side effects, and why not just raise the tirz dose would help. I added 5 mg reta to my 15 mg tirz and combine them in one syringe because I am trying to hold onto a 54 percent loss; for long-term severe obesity the higher combined doses seem reasonable even without much safety data yet.

RustMarble49archiveApr 16
↳ replying to @CopperSignal27

I have used 15 mg tirz for roughly a year and my weight keeps moving up and down. I still have quite a bit left to lose after an 80 lb drop that has partly come back. Another 50 lb is the target. Reta looks like it might help keep appetite and food thoughts down, since tirz only works well for a few days each week. I considered splitting the tirz into two shots but reta seems worth trying instead.

SlowThistle36archiveApr 16

Only a month into tirz at the lowest 2.5 mg dose and I added 1 mg reta three days after the tirz shot to get the best of both. The day after the reta dose the food thoughts dropped hard and I felt more energetic than on tirz by itself. Might drop the reta to 0.5 mg depending how the rest of the week goes, but so far it beats tirz alone.

NorthKettle44archiveApr 16

Ease into reta slowly and, as others said, lower the tirz a little so you are not taking more than needed. Separate the injection days unless you like doing both at once. On the storage point, dry powder of any of these benefits from the freezer for longer life, but once mixed the rules change. Tirz can handle freezing and thawing with little loss, yet reta is more delicate and does not tolerate freeze cycles after mixing.

SharpLantern71archiveApr 16
↳ replying to @RustMarble49 (opening post)

Someone else used the term cross stacking and it fits. I would lower tirz while slowly raising reta. I am in maintenance now at 4 mg tirz for appetite control and 8 mg reta for the fat-burning effect. Earlier I went up to 12 mg reta while holding tirz at 5 mg until the weight came off. It worked well for me; I dropped 112 lb and 46 percent of my body weight in eleven months. How fast to adjust the doses is individual and takes trial and error. My only mistake was jumping from 2 mg to 3 mg reta in one week and dealing with a week of diarrhea, so after that I moved slower.

CopperSignal27archiveApr 16
↳ replying to @RustMarble49

Sounds like you are dealing with fairly serious obesity if the total goal is around 130 lb. You have already lost 80 lb on 15 mg tirz, so you are probably near the limit of what tirz alone can do and have responded better than average. These drugs still are not strong enough on their own to bring people with more than 30 percent excess weight all the way back to normal at standard doses. Reta has shown the highest average loss so far at 29 percent in a year. Most suggestions here lean toward lowering or swapping tirz when adding reta, which is reasonable, but switching straight to 12 mg reta probably will not finish the last 50 lb and might only handle 10-20 of it. No side effects mentioned, so I assume none. My own choice to add rather than swap came after bad nausea on low-dose oz

SteadyTimber65archiveApr 17
↳ replying to @IronKettle74

With that combination do you still see the scale move and how fast does it happen?

GreenMeadow54archiveApr 17
↳ replying to @RustMarble49

Reta and to a lesser degree tirz can raise metabolism a bit, but a calorie deficit is still required. Letting the shots do everything only goes so far and will not fix the underlying issue long term. Some people undereat, but that does not seem to be the case here. The meds reduce intake, yet lasting change comes from lowering calorie density in what you eat rather than just eating less volume. Focus on whole foods and vegetables so you can eat more while staying satisfied and rely less on the medication over time. Good luck.

WarmMeadow92archiveApr 17
↳ replying to @RustMarble49 (opening post)

What you saw was probably about freezing the mixed version. Reta does not hold up as well as tirz when the vial has already been reconstituted, so avoid freezing it after mixing. Dry powder vials do best in the freezer though. On the stacking question, have you thought about going past 15 mg tirz first? I am at 18 mg now and others go higher; Lilly is testing even larger doses. Instead of stacking reta I tried sema first and liked it, then added cagri this week and it has been exactly what I needed.

PlainTimber88archiveApr 17
↳ replying to @WarmMeadow92

How did you pick the amount of cagri to start with?

WarmMeadow92archiveApr 17
↳ replying to @PlainTimber88

Most people say to add the new compound slowly and raise it only as needed. The trials began participants at 0.25 mg, so that is the amount I used and then increased from there. Good luck, cagri is solid.

PatientAnchor11archiveApr 22
↳ replying to @WarmMeadow92

What starting dose of cagri did you use and do you separate the tirz and cagri shots?

GreenBeacon77archiveApr 22

Eight months on tirz, now at 3.75 mg every six days. Food noise is returning so I am thinking of adding 1 mg reta on day three and eventually moving away from tirz. I will watch how I feel, maybe raise reta by 0.5 mg each week and slowly cut tirz after a few weeks, then adjust the plan based on my response.

WarmMeadow92archiveApr 22
↳ replying to @PatientAnchor11

I began with 0.25 mg cagri on Mondays, three days after the tirzepatide shot.

BlueBeacon12archiveApr 22

If food noise returns toward the end of each week that is likely why the scale has stalled or crept back up. Switching to reta can help overall loss but it is not as strong on appetite control, so once-weekly shots might make the ups and downs worse. Whether you switch or stay, splitting the doses is probably the most useful step to flatten the food-noise swings.

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