Early morning training and MOTS-c timing

Do you take pre-workout or eat before training or does the compound carry you through? I read it should be used fasted and I am concerned the pre-workout and carbs right after will waste the dose.

How long have you been on it? I started two weeks ago and also have not noticed anything yet. I did 1mg daily the first week then moved to the common 5mg three times a week.

How long after the first dose did you start to feel a difference?

By the second dose I could clearly tell. Very clean energy without any jittery feeling.

I have also been on the 1mg daily protocol and noticed effects fairly quickly. The first three or four days I felt a bit flat and after that it became a mild constant energy buzz, nothing dramatic but enough to keep going. I might raise the dose a little and switch to every other day like others suggest.

Thanks. The only change I have noticed is that I no longer get the usual mild buzz from my pre-workout.

It is not by choice. I have a newborn who wakes often at night and is up for the day at 5am so I try to finish training and get home to help. I usually head in when he wakes for a feed around 3 or 4am since I am already awake anyway.

I have some on the way. Is it best to dose right before training? Also do you inject on non-training days or only when you want the energy boost?

Can you put that in plain English? I am a senior so I am up early anyway. Next thing I will be power walking the mall at opening time.

Yes I used to inject every morning before training. I would still have some carbs from EAAs plus a fast carb source totaling about 25-30g along with caffeine before or during the session otherwise I would drop low. I think either way works fine. The compound does seem to improve how the body handles carbs. I have been on it since last October. Beyond better insulin sensitivity confirmed on my monitor I do not feel much else. No big energy or stimulant sensation for me. I see it as something running quietly in the background. How are you finding the three times a week schedule?

Good info. Thanks.

I have not noticed anything. On the bodybuilding forum people talk about big energy gains and I was expecting something dramatic. I chose the three times weekly schedule just to avoid daily injections. I will keep going with it.

Have you noticed any change in endurance during sessions? I tried a higher amount this morning before legs and after an hour of heavy work I still felt I could keep going. Might be placebo.

Hard to judge fairly. I have been on TRT for the past year at a low prescribed dose but recently doubled it and added another compound split twice weekly. That addition lets me train daily without lingering soreness. I still feel wiped after long shoulder sessions but every set goes to failure. Workouts last ninety minutes to two hours and I have only taken two rest days since January.

I was not seeking TRT. I saw my doctor for severe depression and it turned out my testosterone was extremely low. After seeing a specialist the first injection made me feel great within two hours and the depression lifted just as fast.

Great outcome. Do you recall what your free and total levels were at the time?

This week I have been training at 3:30am and generally go to bed once the baby is down around 7-7:30pm. Only two other people in the gym that early which is great because I like to stick to my plan and dislike having to change it when machines are taken.

I cannot remember the exact numbers but the endocrinologist said he had never seen levels that low after months of no production.

I had to look up that term. I usually go to bed at 9:30pm but I am older so I am up at 4am and often cannot fall back asleep properly. I train at 8am once the main crowd has left. Going earlier was a mistake I will not repeat.

I did a lot of reading yesterday after ordering. I had researched beforehand but forum comments about huge energy made me expect a strong stimulant effect. It is not a stimulant. It works by supporting cellular energy production. Since starting about a week and a half ago I have lost two pounds which is more than usual for me in that timeframe and my scale shows a small muscle increase. I also added roughly 25 percent more reps on the same weights though it could just be normal progress. I will keep tracking.

I am not trying to bulk. I have dropped from 160 pounds in January down to 141 now. Training is part of my routine and helps protect muscle while using another compound. My shirts used to be tight on my arms and now there is a gap which is the goal.