Best stack for athletic performance? Reta + what?

How long do you run a MOTS cycle? Appreciate the details.

I don't cycle MOTS at all. I just cycle the SS31 and SLUPP, six weeks on each.

So MOTS is run continuously then. Thanks.

Yes that's right. Only the SS31 and SLUPP get cycled. This is just what worked for me personally.

Of course.

I like that approach. Might try it myself since side effects look minimal.

From one rider to another, enjoy the miles. Aging doesn't make it any easier.

Fair point, you don't know me. During my competitive years clen helped a lot of athletes once ephedrine was gone. Cramps usually trace back to dehydration or electrolyte issues. Dose carefully, same as any bronchodilator. The heart-rate and breathing increases are basically what exercise mimetics do.

That stuff feels too strong for what I need, though I've heard of it. Solid info in the thread overall, thanks everyone.

Ephedrine gives a nice stim effect but taxes the heart. I'd skip clen, it isn't as effective and hits the heart harder. Cardarine is another option, not a peptide or adrenergic agonist, but strong for endurance output, maybe better than ephedrine. Short cycles only, not long term.

So you're using the tablet version, not vials. Thanks.

Clen is oral. I stay at twenty micrograms and rarely take the full forty. No problems so far.

Reading that makes me annoyed. As a memantine user I've wanted to try bromantane for years and still haven't. Any chance of sharing where you got it? For the original question I'm still sorting it out. MOTS helps a bit. Looking forward to trying SS31 once some arrives. These things add up fast. Got a DSIP sample and the last two nights were great at three to five hundred micrograms right before bed. TMG has lifted my energy noticeably, fish oil a little. With methylation issues I'm planning to add methylfolate and methyl B12 to support NAD. Overmethylators might do better with NAD; for me it just uses up methyl groups like flush niacin.

Those sites look pretty rough. Takes me back. What else do you grab from places like that? Anything worth checking out?

Also picked up cardarine and the telmisartan/nebivolol combo for a blast. Cardarine plus bromantane works really well for mountain biking. First ride of the season and hit several personal records.

How often do you run cardarine? The cancer risk in the studies sounds extreme. Sounds like you're unstoppable on the trails. I'm on reta and experimenting with other things but need help with cardio energy. Does bromantane keep you awake at night? How does it compare to ephedrine, caffeine, or modafinil? Why nebivolol specifically? I take magnesium daily for heart issues and added tadalafil for mild hypertension. Considering atenolol again down the line. How's telmisartan working for you? Is that combo the usual way to manage blood pressure when on gear?

A lot of people in the PED scene see cardarine at ten milligrams daily as relatively safe. The cancer study used rats already prone to cancer, fifteen times the human dose scaled to a one-kilogram rat, and they died earlier. Cardarine also helps keep lipids in check with orals. Nebivolol is a selective beta blocker up to ten milligrams. The nebivolol plus telmisartan pair is viewed as the most protective for the heart when using gear, especially against left-ventricular hypertrophy. I'm a high-mileage vet with a missing knee ligament, multiple injuries, asthma from exposure, and thyroid problems that left me weak. One day I decided to change that. Lost forty pounds then added eighteen pounds of lean mass confirmed by DEXA. Current stack is reta, KLOW, three IU HGH, two hundred test, seventy tren, cardarine, and bromantane twice a week before cardio. Tren is low-dose to test the cut hype and it raised BP so I'm on forty telmisartan and five nebivolol. Bromantane...

SS-31 is supposed to run for about thirty days first before starting MOTS-c. Look it up yourself. Five hundred micrograms of DSIP did nothing for me. What's TMG? Five-AM I haven't tried, but SLU works though tolerance built quickly and I had to raise the dose a lot with the pills. If using pills, the SLU plus BAM15 stack felt like it made a difference, though maybe placebo.

TMG is trimethylglycine. Supplies the methyl groups needed to convert NR into NAD+.

I didn't have any SS31 at the time. I know the protocol, that's why I bought it. Try a higher dose. I did a full milligram last night. First try was around six-fifty and it worked well. Has to be pinned within thirty minutes of falling asleep. Trimethylglycine, also called betaine anhydrous. Supports methylation upstream of SAMe. Needed if using flush niacin for NAD or blasting large NAD doses without fatigue. Pair with methylfolate and B12 for best results. Sounds intense.

Running longer without fatigue could actually make you fitter over time, or let you hold a faster pace than usual.