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Round label availability and adhesion issues for vial tops on M2 M3 models

83 replies25 peopleJun 15, 2026β˜† Follow
Summary

why specific round label sizes for vial tops seem discontinued or limited on M2 and M3 models, what workarounds exist, and why adhesion fails on some vials

What this discussion establishesWhere people disagree

whether cold storage, holographic label weight, or label type primarily causes poor vial adhesion

Still open

future availability of 28x14 mm and similar sizes plus responsiveness of support

Nothing here is advice.

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SlowBramble76archiveopening postJun 15

Hello folks, I belong to a group creating tools for marking small containers. A number of participants joined our first study and their comments truly influenced the current design direction. We are starting another study now and hope more people will take part. It takes little time, just several brief questions on personal methods for sorting and marking containers, using whatever approach feels simplest. We would especially like input on a few items under development, such as extra ribbon shades like purple, silver or holographic finishes, updated app features that speed up creating labels, and add-on kits that simplify the marking process for containers. If you feel like offering your viewpoint, reply in this thread and I will reach out afterward. We appreciate every response and look over each one.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15

Take a peek at recent projects we've focused on below. Updated sticker stocks offer extra varieties and textures suitable for bottle marking. Fresh ink roll hues include violet along with metallic tones, with additional shades arriving soon. Novel reflective designs provide striking appearances while remaining legible even on tiny containers. Updated software features include a fresh installation process and a useful computation aid that accelerates sticker making. Extra bundles consist of minor attachments designed to simplify and tidy the process of marking bottles. I'll share images further down. I'm interested in knowing which ones you might actually find useful, along with any other ideas you have in mind. Feel free to respond at any time.

WryFenwick45archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76 (opening post)

Awesome that it connects immediately with people who use those labels. Success to you in researching the marketplace!

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15

I'm wondering about a couple of points and would value any thoughts shared here. Small tools are in development inside the application, aimed at wellness oversight, with a few connecting straight to label output. What method do folks currently use for monitoring their containers, whether digital tables, preset layouts, or pure recall? If the software took over that role, which elements should it retain? Are preparation times, end dates, and defrost periods noted at all? What process gets followed at present, and might timed alerts make a difference? One idea would link those alerts directly with the printed labels. It seems worthwhile to hear about the different ways this gets handled by others. Drop a note below whenever if more discussion sounds good.

QuietFenwick11archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

This concept for a vial label tool seems fantastic. Eager to put it into action soon. It is the sort of addition I never realized was absent until now.

AmberCompass48archiveJun 15

I wish there were even more options for ribbon hues, plus the chance to use several shades together without throwing away stickers from those custom rolls. It would be great to have better resolution than what's available right now. People who market vials with tags really ought to switch to inkjet printers because the output just isn't sharp enough. The extra bits for putting on labels aren't very useful either. Those violet accessories shown in the photo are the ones I got, and while they're not fantastic, they beat going without. The reflective stickers, on the other hand, look pretty neat.

WarmQuill56archiveJun 15

I wish the software let me work with vector formats straight away. Bringing documents in always leads to poorer image sharpness.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @AmberCompass48

I value the candid comments provided here. Indeed the ribbons we offer right now support only one or two colors. We're developing additional choices with multiple colors and various patterns for both the tops and the main parts of the containers used with our M2 and M3 units. It's clear that people sometimes use up a portion of a roll to achieve multicolored results and we're addressing this by improving the material for the labels themselves so less waste occurs. For the shiny effects besides the usual metallic we'll include crystal and romantic laser patterns as well. You might not realize our separate website allows complete customization of the labels letting you create whatever arrangements suit your needs. Regarding resolution note that every printer we make such as the M2 and M3 runs at 300 dpi. Small lettering tested on a 40 by 20 millimeter tag for a 3 milliliter container remained legible and sharp. This means they could deliver better results than anticipated. Would you consider a brief discussion regarding your current setup? In return for your input I'd like to offer a replacement device special privileges or discounts on label materials whichever helps most.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @WarmQuill56

I agree with that idea. To get the details right for what we're making, which type of vector file interests you most for importing, like SVG, AI, or EPS? Mainly focusing on logos and icons, or entire label designs instead? I'd enjoy chatting more about it if you want, because this sort of input proves valuable.

SteadySignal41archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Wow, acquaintances of mine might find this kind of thing handy. At present my tracking software displays the amount along with an alert. Still, I know people who have trouble recalling every amount, so including the markings inside the software would suit them perfectly.

WarmQuill56archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Supporting more formats would really improve the software and especially the hardware output. I work with multiple design programs and have found import tweaks that the device accepts better. Even so the results lack crisp edges though the originals stay vector based in my tools. Sorting the compatibility would mean skipping any contrast or intensity adjustments altogether.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SteadySignal41

Thanks for posting that. What confuses folks the most, the dose size, when to take it, or telling the containers apart? Suppose you made a tag as soon as you start a container, and it went straight into a record with alerts, would that match your routine or might it interfere? Appreciate the input once more, really useful.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @WarmQuill56

Grateful for this insight. It seems you're pointing out that even a flawless vector graphic from drawing software ends up not crisp after printing. That suggests the trouble lies more in the program's conversion process to the output device, including pixelation or adjustments for intensity and clarity. Would you agree? Details like these often go unnoticed until an expert explains them. We are going to address it.

AmberCompass48archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Sure, talking more would be great with me! Using several hues at once really appeals, or even skipping the waste of stickers just for dual-tone designs. Those shiny diamond and heart patterns sound amazing, and buying them for my machine would happen right away. Making custom stickers including ai-generated ones is familiar, and the creative parts never cause trouble. It is not like certain design programs but this built-in editor works fine. Still the resolution stands out as an issue. Liquid-ink printers deliver much crisper output than 300 dots per inch can reach. Professionals rely on ink-based methods for that polished look, which this unit does not match. Smaller-scale users like myself stay happy with what I own, yet honestly higher resolution would be preferred. That wish does not reduce how much the simple operation and ease of use are appreciated. Special access for a period to test the program thoroughly would also be welcome. Thanks for the time spent, and these printers bring real enjoyment while getting mentioned often on different boards.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @AmberCompass48

Appreciate the note once more. On the clarity matter, we can't fix it using the gear we have at the moment in the near future. I'd also like to keep chatting a little longer, yet I'm running into issues getting through the normal channel here, maybe a setup thing on one side or both. If it suits you, drop me a line so we can carry on from there. One thing I'm wondering while we're talking, when you went for the D series, was the main draw those tiny circular stickers, or did you want a straightforward starter unit to test ideas? It gives me a better sense of why people go for the D10, D11, or M2. Grateful again.

LevelBeacon78archiveJun 15

Hi there, this printer of mine offers a great selection of label styles that I really enjoy. I'd be interested in seeing additional tape colors. The print on the cold storage labels looks somewhat washed out to me. Should it be like that, or is there an adjustment needed? It's been just a couple months since I got it. I'm wondering whether a tablet app for iOS is planned. Designing on my tablet is my preference, and the desktop program won't run on my computer since it's incompatible with this model. That leaves me relying on my mobile device at the moment. I'm quite satisfied with it overall. It's nice that you responded here.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @LevelBeacon78

Glad you like how the printer turned out. We have plans to introduce more ribbon shades soon including purple silver and holographic styles along with a wider selection of two tone choices. About the text that fades on labels meant for freezing conditions let me know whether you are using the cold storage material and at what temperature range you keep things. Standard labels handle down to roughly twenty or thirty below zero but for much colder setups like dry ice or eighty below a special material becomes necessary. A photo would let me spot the right adjustment. Support for Mac systems is also being added and should appear close to August. Details on a tablet version would be useful so share how you would apply it such as creating designs on the larger display or sending prints straight from the tablet. Feedback like yours really makes a difference.

PatientFenwick39archiveJun 15

As someone who owns an iPad, it would be nice if the app worked on that device. A bigger display plus the chance to output labels straight from other programs sounds useful. Drawing my own designs with a stylus inside the software would be nice as well.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @PatientFenwick39

This idea really stands out and I'm grateful for it. Comparable suggestions have come in from folks who use the journal and planner tools. Comments like that one move things higher on our priorities. We'll get going on it before long. Thanks for laying out the details so clearly.

RustBeacon82archiveJun 15

Count me in to assist here! Colorful tapes are my favorite, especially violet and bright pink with that smile. I also rely on a tablet running the basic mobile system, and it performs well enough, though an app made specifically for the tablet and stylus would be ideal. Those rainbow stickers plus the math tool look useful indeed. It's true that avoiding extra stickers for rainbow ones makes sense. Thanks for working on expanding choices in container tags, which is why lots of people got their unit.

PatientTimber45archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76 (opening post)

The software doesn't allow layering colors easily so i have to run a hundred tags in black then flip the roll back to start over in red and repeat that for green and blue but after the third color the chip thinks the roll is finished so i can't finish the fourth and end up throwing away a fresh roll even though i only used the same hundred three times the counter went up by three hundred instead there needs to be a feature to flip the material without updating the chip total that's the only complaint i had to work around it by getting rolls somewhere else changing out the chip and sending the originals back as an example these are the tags i make

ClearBramble68archiveJun 15

By the way that bio hazard care warning in the comic sans style font is making me laugh my ass off. I sure wasn't ready for this much silliness with a serious warning.

PatientTimber45archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @ClearBramble68

I'm the sole person messing around with these things so it's purely for laughs.

PatientTimber45archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @AmberCompass48

Appreciate it loads. These tasks are a joy while my pep get delivered by mail.

BlueHarbour29archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76 (opening post)

I wish there were additional shades of labels that work with the device I own. I'm also willing to purchase a colorful compact model, maybe even a smaller version, from the manufacturer should one exist. Right now the only options I have are white and yellow stickers in tiny dimensions such as around thirty by twenty millimeters or close, nothing else.

WryCinder14archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @PatientTimber45

y'all exposing the whole method without charging a dime πŸ™Š what made you mention that rfid scheme to the guy 🀣🀣

WryCinder14archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @PatientTimber45

Y'all spilling secrets without charging a dime πŸ™Š what made you mention that rfid scheme to the guy 🀣🀣

SteadySignal41archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Getting the right quantity for each injection is the hard part. I put stickers on the bottles yet people still have to keep the measurement in mind because I didn't write it down. The measurement can also vary later on which makes adding it to the sticker difficult. I don't feel like making fresh stickers whenever the measurement gets adjusted.

WryCinder14archiveJun 15

Appreciating when companies ask what users think feels good. Having only recently begun with this model the main frustration involves how label stock gets tracked. Another concern is the small selection of tape shades available. It looks like fixes for these are already underway which is nice to see.

PatientTimber45archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @WryCinder14

It's because the main trouble requires their correction from where it begins.

WryCinder14archiveJun 15
↳ replying to @PatientTimber45

Haha just playing around with you there dude 🀣

SlowBramble76archiveJun 16
↳ replying to @RustBeacon82

Thanks for sharing such detailed thoughts. Development on a purple ribbon has already begun, with plans to add it to the website near August. I would like to know your order of preference for future ribbon shades. Would holographic, silver, pink, or combinations of multiple colors come first, and what makes those stand out? The concept with a tablet and stylus seems excellent as well. Might this involve freehand drawing on tiny container stickers similar to a diary or schedule book? More sticker choices are under preparation according to actual customer input, which makes comments like yours really useful. I am grateful once more for the interest in labeling these small bottles.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 16
↳ replying to @PatientTimber45

Thanks for sharing such a straightforward case β€” really appreciate it πŸ™ Many others face this exact challenge too, as it's a frequent complaint among those printing with various colors, and our team is developing a solution right now for properly reversing the labels in multi-color jobs so the total doesn't get used up quickly. Input like yours is super valuable for nailing the details. Any thoughts on making the reverse and tally process smoother in the software would be great to get β€” you seem to have a solid grasp on it. πŸ™Œ (P.S. that label looks awesome πŸ˜„)

SlowBramble76archiveJun 16
↳ replying to @SteadySignal41

I see why that works, appreciate it. The core problem comes down to doses shifting gradually while the sticker stays the same, which forces new prints whenever adjustments happen. That's not something anyone enjoys. We're aiming to bridge exactly that by keeping steady details like the substance, preparation date, and strength on the sticker itself, while moving the variable amount into the software for recording, monitoring, and alerts. This way updates don't require fresh labels each time. The two stay connected, with the right info in each spot. Does this match the way things go for you and those you create labels for? I'm really trying to nail it down properly.

SteadySignal41archiveJun 16
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Yeah, that sounds ideal to me. Your summary captures it perfectly. The stock list and everything you can save inside it really appeals to me too.

RustBeacon82archiveJun 16
↳ replying to @SlowBramble76

Pink stands out the most and silver or holographic would look great against the black labels. Pink and purple would be nice for labeling beauty related items. A padded case for the M2 along with supplies would also be useful.

GreyAlder96archiveJun 17

Why are the 28mm by 14mm round labels no longer available for the M2? They fit vial tops perfectly and once my stock runs out there will be no way to replace them.

PlainAlder11archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @RustBeacon82

They are made for the cheaper model. I got two rolls and have already labeled a hundred vials.

RustBeacon82archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

I wonder if the M2 would even read the code on those rolls. It feels like they want us to buy a second printer just for vial tops.

GreyAlder96archiveJun 17
↳ replying to @PlainAlder11

The issue is I already have the M2 which is not the cheapest model and those sizes were listed when I bought it. A lot of us chose it expecting that feature and now it feels like future sizes might disappear too.

SlowBramble76archiveJun 18
↳ replying to @RustBeacon82

Peptide label applicator and storage box kits are in development.

PlainAlder11archiveJun 18
↳ replying to @RustBeacon82

I also have a small similar model that I use for the round labels while keeping the other printer for regular ones. Nothing fancy needed.

BlueQuill49archiveJun 23

Still getting used to the M2 but the upcoming items sound good. A pink ribbon would be welcome along with black combinations on the other colors so multi color printing works like the examples shown. Right now I am doing solid bands and clip art in a contrasting color. I bought the cheaper printer just for the circle top stickers and would prefer a roll that fits the M2 instead of needing two devices.

GreyAlder96archiveJun 23
↳ replying to @BlueQuill49

They offered those sizes before. Not sure if it is just stock or if they have been dropped. It feels like certain sizes might be limited on purpose to push multiple machines.

WarmAlder80archiveJun 23

More colored labels for the B1 models would be good. Smaller sizes like 30 by 14 mm are hard to find so I end up trimming larger ones for 3 ml vials. The higher end models are overkill for just vial work. Appreciate the team asking for input directly.

WryHarbour76archiveJun 24

Did production of the 28 by 14 mm white round labels stop right after I bought an M3 specifically for them? They are no longer listed.

GreyAlder96archiveJun 24
↳ replying to @WryHarbour76

Looks like the same thing happened with the M2.

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